r/nextfuckinglevel 26d ago

Damn thats one crazy move!

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u/Beneficial_Debate112 26d ago

Could have turned that into a mighty boot to the face, dude should be grateful

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u/head_empty247 26d ago

If the kick lands onto the opponent's face, is it illegal? đŸ¤” Would be an awesome kick either way.

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u/Beneficial_Debate112 26d ago

I thought the same, perhaps that's why he chose this. Excessive force might get you disqualified or something.

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u/Merkaaba 26d ago

AFAIK you cant kick an opponent in the head when they're on the ground. Otherwise it's legal.

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u/SunXChips 26d ago

That’s correct. Pretty sure that’s why he landed on his knees cuz that counts as being on the ground.

Now if the guy head kicked him before he landed

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u/Beneficial_Debate112 26d ago

Well there you go then, I honestly didn't care enough to research lol

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

Unless its ONE FC

They allow kicks knees and stomps to downed opponents

Most mma orgs dont allow it if a knee is touching or sometimes the hands

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u/JohnCenaMathh 24d ago

This isn't UFC. Head kicks on downed opponents is legal in many orgs.

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u/head_empty247 26d ago

Excessive force? I don't think that rules applies here. I mean, they're in MMA fight, where both of them try to knock out one another, so I don't see how a kick to the face (that could potentially results in a KO) would be consider excessive. Not only that, how would you determine which attack is excessive though?

Not arguing against you, I just don't understand your point.

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u/Beneficial_Debate112 26d ago

Honestly the assumption was based on a story my former employer told me but to be fair it was a taekwondo tournament, not mma.

He nearly took a guys jawbone off with a backfist and got tossed.

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u/LeatherfacesChainsaw 26d ago

Only thing close to excessive force is a doctors stoppage where the doctor intervenes and calls the fight. Most of the time they are getting KOd/TKOd

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u/head_empty247 26d ago

Make sense.

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u/Huge-Particular1433 26d ago

I believe the way that rule works is a person is considered on the ground when all four (maybe 3) limbs are touching the ground.

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u/KittenSpronkles 26d ago

I'm fairly confident it would be a legal kick. In UFC the only time you can't kick/knee them in the face is when they're grounded - a fighter is considered grounded when any part of their body, other than their hands or feet, is in contact with the ground

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u/Armadillioh 26d ago

It would have been a real life Guile Flash Kick

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u/Ernesto_Perfekto 26d ago

There was a 5 milisecond window where the guy couldve legally kicked his head

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u/miraculousgloomball 26d ago edited 26d ago

...No he couldn't? He was holding the right leg on his right side. The left leg was on the outside. tf are you seeing? He'd have had to kick through his own right leg with his left to kick him in the face.

If he could, it would have been perfectly legal though idk wtf is going on elsewhere in this comment chain

edit: I get you guys don't want(Watch*) mma but I'd expect a little bit more ocular engagement, people.

e2: meant watch not want my mistake.

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u/EmilioFreshtevez 26d ago

Pretty he was saying The Holder could’ve kicked The Flipper.

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u/miraculousgloomball 26d ago edited 26d ago

Well it's no less false. He was mid step during the flip. He's not going to readjust to set up a kick in the sub .5 of a second it took to for that flip to occur, let alone shoot and land it. No opportunity for a kick there- and if his hands are on the ground like they were after the flip, he couldnt have kicked him in the head because that WOULD have been illegal.

Also, I'm pretty sure he wasn't, because this isn't where* the conversation ends and they didn't contest my assumption ever despite what I'm talking being even more evidently clear further down.

Edit: typo. Where, not there*

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u/Beneficial_Debate112 26d ago

Who tf said we don't want mma? I only made an observation lol

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u/miraculousgloomball 26d ago edited 26d ago

It was an assumption based on how wrong your observation was.

(edit I meant watch not want, apologies.)

And if you watch mma, why on earth would you be questioning the legality of kicking a standing opponent in the head?

YOU near enough said you don't watch mma with that one.

I thought the same, perhaps that's why he chose this. Excessive force might get you disqualified or something.

Like... WHAT

edit: yeah my bad, if you don't watch it though- he couldn't have headkicked there, but if he could it would have been perfectly legal.

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u/Beneficial_Debate112 26d ago

I disagree strongly that he could not have done it because I did it in my much younger days

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u/miraculousgloomball 26d ago

You could phase your left leg through your right leg to kick something past it? Wow dude, you must have an amazing record with magic tricks like that

no you didn't, though.

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u/ItzMeKev 26d ago

Chose to be skillful instead