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u/Beneficial_Debate112 26d ago
Could have turned that into a mighty boot to the face, dude should be grateful
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u/head_empty247 26d ago
If the kick lands onto the opponent's face, is it illegal? 🤔 Would be an awesome kick either way.
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u/Beneficial_Debate112 26d ago
I thought the same, perhaps that's why he chose this. Excessive force might get you disqualified or something.
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u/Merkaaba 25d ago
AFAIK you cant kick an opponent in the head when they're on the ground. Otherwise it's legal.
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u/SunXChips 25d ago
That’s correct. Pretty sure that’s why he landed on his knees cuz that counts as being on the ground.
Now if the guy head kicked him before he landed
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u/Beneficial_Debate112 25d ago
Well there you go then, I honestly didn't care enough to research lol
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24d ago
Unless its ONE FC
They allow kicks knees and stomps to downed opponents
Most mma orgs dont allow it if a knee is touching or sometimes the hands
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u/head_empty247 26d ago
Excessive force? I don't think that rules applies here. I mean, they're in MMA fight, where both of them try to knock out one another, so I don't see how a kick to the face (that could potentially results in a KO) would be consider excessive. Not only that, how would you determine which attack is excessive though?
Not arguing against you, I just don't understand your point.
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u/Beneficial_Debate112 25d ago
Honestly the assumption was based on a story my former employer told me but to be fair it was a taekwondo tournament, not mma.
He nearly took a guys jawbone off with a backfist and got tossed.
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u/LeatherfacesChainsaw 25d ago
Only thing close to excessive force is a doctors stoppage where the doctor intervenes and calls the fight. Most of the time they are getting KOd/TKOd
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u/Huge-Particular1433 26d ago
I believe the way that rule works is a person is considered on the ground when all four (maybe 3) limbs are touching the ground.
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u/KittenSpronkles 25d ago
I'm fairly confident it would be a legal kick. In UFC the only time you can't kick/knee them in the face is when they're grounded - a fighter is considered grounded when any part of their body, other than their hands or feet, is in contact with the ground
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u/Ernesto_Perfekto 26d ago
There was a 5 milisecond window where the guy couldve legally kicked his head
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u/miraculousgloomball 25d ago edited 25d ago
...No he couldn't? He was holding the right leg on his right side. The left leg was on the outside. tf are you seeing? He'd have had to kick through his own right leg with his left to kick him in the face.
If he could, it would have been perfectly legal though idk wtf is going on elsewhere in this comment chain
edit: I get you guys don't want(Watch*) mma but I'd expect a little bit more ocular engagement, people.
e2: meant watch not want my mistake.
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u/EmilioFreshtevez 25d ago
Pretty he was saying The Holder could’ve kicked The Flipper.
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u/miraculousgloomball 25d ago edited 25d ago
Well it's no less false. He was mid step during the flip. He's not going to readjust to set up a kick in the sub .5 of a second it took to for that flip to occur, let alone shoot and land it. No opportunity for a kick there- and if his hands are on the ground like they were after the flip, he couldnt have kicked him in the head because that WOULD have been illegal.
Also, I'm pretty sure he wasn't, because this isn't where* the conversation ends and they didn't contest my assumption ever despite what I'm talking being even more evidently clear further down.
Edit: typo. Where, not there*
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u/Beneficial_Debate112 25d ago
Who tf said we don't want mma? I only made an observation lol
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u/miraculousgloomball 25d ago edited 25d ago
It was an assumption based on how wrong your observation was.
(edit I meant watch not want, apologies.)
And if you watch mma, why on earth would you be questioning the legality of kicking a standing opponent in the head?
YOU near enough said you don't watch mma with that one.
I thought the same, perhaps that's why he chose this. Excessive force might get you disqualified or something.
Like... WHAT
edit: yeah my bad, if you don't watch it though- he couldn't have headkicked there, but if he could it would have been perfectly legal.
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u/Beneficial_Debate112 25d ago
I disagree strongly that he could not have done it because I did it in my much younger days
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u/miraculousgloomball 25d ago
You could phase your left leg through your right leg to kick something past it? Wow dude, you must have an amazing record with magic tricks like that
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u/BoySan 26d ago
Backflipped from a single leg attempt right into bottom side control. I think it was an unwise move; it's incredible that he was able to get back up.
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u/Hazee302 25d ago
It was nuts that the other dude reacted as quickly and smoothly that he did though. Didn’t even phase him. He was on top of that shit.
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u/MurkDiesel 26d ago
reminds me of that video of the goat takin a leap off the mountain to shake the bird
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u/Vjolt01 26d ago
I feel like if the guy just held on that foot, that flip never would have completed and he would have fell.
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u/ripsandtrips 25d ago
This was a very common way to counter a high single in wrestling until people started faking it and slamming people down on their heads after the backflip started
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u/Randomized9442 25d ago
Yep, just hold on and drop to the mat with them. Opponent may just knock themselves out for you.
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u/HarveysBackupAccount 25d ago
as a regular guy sitting on a couch, I'd worry that would tear my knee apart
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u/ShagCarpetGuy 26d ago
Something about nearly naked dudes hugging/rolling around on the ground… Maybe I need some T supplements to better understand.
Neat flip though 😂
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u/SapphicPancakes 26d ago
Thats....what mma is? Part of it is wrestling. Weird your mind goes to that place. Do you have smth you wanna tell us? Its 2024, we'll accept you
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