r/news • u/PlayaSlayaX • 1d ago

Mexico tests cellphone app allowing migrants to send alert if they are about to be detained in US

https://apnews.com/article/mexico-app-migrants-deportations-consulates-09655e742f2918803881a32620e384ef
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u/InfiniteVastDarkness 1d ago

Fascinating. The Mexican government doesn’t care that its people can’t be educated or gain employment there, but they care if someone in the US is about to be detained?

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u/hooladan2 1d ago

Higher education is essentially free in Mexico. There's a joke that it's more expensive to use a public restroom in Mexico than it is to go to college. You have to pay like 10 pesos or something to use a gas station bathroom. I was listening to a podcast where two guys from Mexico said it literally cost them like 5 dollars a semester or something.

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u/Leothegolden 1d ago

Why don’t more people take advantage of it. You would think everyone would have an upper level education

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u/DelayedG 1d ago

It's a huge topic and one I'm very passionate about... Basically there's no motivation for being "great" at your profession. In the end the system is corrupt, you're not rewarded for being top of your class by getting a top paying job. Employers don't care if you have a masters or graduated with high grade, they will still pay shit. Contracts are not given to the company with the best work/quality.

Engineering in the US is very rewarding if you put the effort into it. You graduate with an engineering degree, then work for your EIT license, then your Professional Engineer license and you reap the rewards. You get respect, a high title and great pay. There's nothing like that in Mexico. A new graduate can design a building and seal it without any expert supervision.

The youth are becoming increasingly lazy, they don't want to put in the effort. Even minimum wage workers are becoming increasingly lazy and disrespectful. They skip work, smoke weed at their job, get into gang related problems, etc. All of this is something I've seen first hand.

A lot of teachers are shit, they are not required qualifications.

Etc, etc, etc.

I think the solution is we need high standards by law, just like in the US. (Think of the high standards in the US for becoming an attorney or a professional engineer)

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u/Possibly_Parker 1d ago

The young are not getting lazier. Work is getting less rewarding. It's crazy how there are so few jobs in places like NYC, LA, where jobs by law must pay a certain minimum (which is then scaled up for higher positions) as opposed to TX, for example, where everyone is hiring because nobody wants to work for under half the wage (15, 7.25).

Most people in places where jobs pay amply have jobs. Young people in low-minimum wage areas simply aren't willing to be severely underpaid.

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u/DelayedG 1d ago

I'm talking about mexico. And that's part of what I'm saying, it's less rewarding and I explained why.

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u/Czexan 12h ago

To be fair that's also regional, border region doesn't have nearly as many problems with that as central Mexico does from my understanding.

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u/MadRoboticist 1d ago

I think this is mostly true, but I think a PE is useless/unnecessary for probably 90% of engineering jobs.

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u/DelayedG 1d ago

Think through what you're saying. Bad doctors kill one person at a time. Bad engineers kill dozens or hundreds at the time. Going through college is not enough for a reason. There's a world difference between an engineer with a PE and one that doesn't.

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u/MadRoboticist 1d ago

I don't need to think through anything. I've been an engineer for 15 years and have never even considered getting a PE. I work in an office of 600 engineers and maybe 5% of them have PEs. There are certain industries that might require a PE, but most engineers are not in those industries. Only something like 20% of engineers have a PE license.

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u/DelayedG 1d ago edited 1d ago

Sir, i respect you, but there's no reason to use yourself as an example. I'm only referring to the context of Mexico, which you are not part of. The US already has high standards and I'm sure you learned a lot from your mentors when you were younger. Mexico is different. Everything is lazily designed and you can tell by looking at the average building.

That's why I'm saying there is a need for something like a PE over here to kickstart a change into creating a demand for good engineers.

If you have another idea feel free to share.

Random story: I went to a wedding of a fellow classmates like a year ago (from the top engineering university in mexico) and I was the only one still in the industry and that's because I work remotely for a Texas company. Everyone else had already jumped to something else non engineering related.

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u/MadRoboticist 1d ago

You're using the US as an example of what a good system is and acting like the PE license is a critical part of that. I'm telling you it isn't. The reason things are built better in the US is because there are much stricter regulations. Requiring a license to practice doesn't do anything if there aren't any standards you need to meet anyway.

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u/DelayedG 1d ago

That's what I wanted to say, stricter regulations like asking for a PE seal in every public job, or whatever. I'm just frustrated by the fact that there are no good jobs in Mexico and leaving the country sucks. No wonder a lot of young people don't strive for higher education.

The average engineer salary in Mexico is 500 USD per month, before taxes. You literally earn more as an Uber driver.

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u/Giblet_ 1d ago

I wouldn't say engineers make great pay. The pay is decent, but nothing like doctors or lawyers make.

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u/DelayedG 1d ago

Take into consideration my post is using mexico as a comparison. 70k+ usd is great. I have friends who make that with EIT only. Mexico is 6k per year.

But I know where you're coming from. Compared to the US market lawyers and doctors make much more :/

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u/Giblet_ 1d ago

Yeah, it's just low pay for how difficult the degree is to obtain. Engineers were paid much better 20 years ago. I am not nearly as well off as an engineer as I expected to be.

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u/Critical_Thinker_81 1d ago

“High standards in the US” hahahahahahahaha

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u/DelayedG 1d ago

Compared to Mexico yes.

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u/Critical_Thinker_81 1d ago

Hahahahahahahaahahha you don’t know how many guys I have met here in the us who don’t know a shit of the field they are working

I am an engineer