r/news • u/PlayaSlayaX • 21h ago
Mexico tests cellphone app allowing migrants to send alert if they are about to be detained in US
https://apnews.com/article/mexico-app-migrants-deportations-consulates-09655e742f2918803881a32620e384ef1.2k
u/InfiniteVastDarkness 20h ago
Fascinating. The Mexican government doesn’t care that its people can’t be educated or gain employment there, but they care if someone in the US is about to be detained?
821
u/hooladan2 19h ago
Higher education is essentially free in Mexico. There's a joke that it's more expensive to use a public restroom in Mexico than it is to go to college. You have to pay like 10 pesos or something to use a gas station bathroom. I was listening to a podcast where two guys from Mexico said it literally cost them like 5 dollars a semester or something.
278
u/Critical_Thinker_81 15h ago
It depends on the university, the UNAM used to charge 50 cents of a peso for the semester, now it is more expensive but not crazy expensive
Anyways people don’t go to the university
I did go, i am a computer systems engineer and I have worked so far in 7 countries, I am a manager in a Big4 firm and one month ago I became a US citizen
All that accomplished due to my public university education
55
u/BettyWhiteDevilband 14h ago
Goya, Goya ¡Universidad! UNAM’s campus buildings are absolutely gorgeous
135
u/Leothegolden 19h ago
Why don’t more people take advantage of it. You would think everyone would have an upper level education
463
u/Mreta 18h ago
So many people are under employed. You get your fancy college degree or higher and for what? No jobs in your field and you just wasted 4+ years of your life.
Loads of working and poverty class families don't have the luxury of waiting that amount of time to end up with potentially the same job anyway. Might as well get to working or start your own small business/hustle.
I have experience with a public uni in mexico where there were loads of rural students in engineering. Loads give up a year or 2 in, parents get impatient or they just want to earn and hate being a poor student.
→ More replies (33)20
u/Warcraft_Fan 9h ago
Are those Mexican degrees largely useless outside Mexico? or is there something that prevents non-criminal from passing the school, then going out of Mexico to earn money? (criminals are usually barred from crossing border)
38
u/Stardustger 7h ago
Yes and no. No as in they are not largely useless outside of mexico. Yes as in they are largely useless inside America. American employers very often dismiss college degrees from non American colleges (in many cases even from well known and respected European universities).
•
u/o_safadinho 0m ago
I see people with degrees from Latin America all the time in South Florida. We could be the exception though.
•
u/masonjar11 38m ago
My wife graduated from UNAM, and she's now a professor at a major state university in Veterinary Medicine. To make that transition, she completed a residency at another state university in the US. She had no issue finding a job after the residency.
The usefulness of the degree is the same as it is in the US. Her degree is in high demand, but very few people in her field pursue her specialty. It essentially comes down to supply and demand.
20
u/BettyWhiteDevilband 14h ago
In short, the free education is still a privilege. Education is free if you can get access to it.
30
u/ConsummateContrarian 18h ago
Even if university is free, they still have admissions standards. Not everyone is smart enough for university.
10
u/tzomby1 10h ago edited 9h ago
You also gotta pay other stuff like transportation, food, uniform if needed, materials, rent if you had to move, etc.
Just because the university itself is "free" doesn't mean everyone can afford to go
4
u/chowder138 8h ago
So it's just tuition that's free? Yeah that's a big difference. There are a bunch of US states that offer scholarships for free tuition to students with high GPAs. But you still have to pay for all the other expenses. The biggest issue is just the fact that it's hard to work while going to college, and everyone still has the basic costs of being alive (rent, food, health insurance, etc). Free college is really nice but unless you're getting a cost of living stipend at the same time, it's still a very non-trivial expense.
15
u/shaka893P 15h ago
Because it's not opened for everyone, you need to pass a very difficult exam to get in.
43
u/DelayedG 18h ago
It's a huge topic and one I'm very passionate about... Basically there's no motivation for being "great" at your profession. In the end the system is corrupt, you're not rewarded for being top of your class by getting a top paying job. Employers don't care if you have a masters or graduated with high grade, they will still pay shit. Contracts are not given to the company with the best work/quality.
Engineering in the US is very rewarding if you put the effort into it. You graduate with an engineering degree, then work for your EIT license, then your Professional Engineer license and you reap the rewards. You get respect, a high title and great pay. There's nothing like that in Mexico. A new graduate can design a building and seal it without any expert supervision.
The youth are becoming increasingly lazy, they don't want to put in the effort. Even minimum wage workers are becoming increasingly lazy and disrespectful. They skip work, smoke weed at their job, get into gang related problems, etc. All of this is something I've seen first hand.
A lot of teachers are shit, they are not required qualifications.
Etc, etc, etc.
I think the solution is we need high standards by law, just like in the US. (Think of the high standards in the US for becoming an attorney or a professional engineer)
47
u/Possibly_Parker 16h ago
The young are not getting lazier. Work is getting less rewarding. It's crazy how there are so few jobs in places like NYC, LA, where jobs by law must pay a certain minimum (which is then scaled up for higher positions) as opposed to TX, for example, where everyone is hiring because nobody wants to work for under half the wage (15, 7.25).
Most people in places where jobs pay amply have jobs. Young people in low-minimum wage areas simply aren't willing to be severely underpaid.
18
u/DelayedG 16h ago
I'm talking about mexico. And that's part of what I'm saying, it's less rewarding and I explained why.
6
u/MadRoboticist 17h ago
I think this is mostly true, but I think a PE is useless/unnecessary for probably 90% of engineering jobs.
6
u/DelayedG 16h ago
Think through what you're saying. Bad doctors kill one person at a time. Bad engineers kill dozens or hundreds at the time. Going through college is not enough for a reason. There's a world difference between an engineer with a PE and one that doesn't.
13
u/MadRoboticist 16h ago
I don't need to think through anything. I've been an engineer for 15 years and have never even considered getting a PE. I work in an office of 600 engineers and maybe 5% of them have PEs. There are certain industries that might require a PE, but most engineers are not in those industries. Only something like 20% of engineers have a PE license.
8
u/DelayedG 15h ago edited 15h ago
Sir, i respect you, but there's no reason to use yourself as an example. I'm only referring to the context of Mexico, which you are not part of. The US already has high standards and I'm sure you learned a lot from your mentors when you were younger. Mexico is different. Everything is lazily designed and you can tell by looking at the average building.
That's why I'm saying there is a need for something like a PE over here to kickstart a change into creating a demand for good engineers.
If you have another idea feel free to share.
Random story: I went to a wedding of a fellow classmates like a year ago (from the top engineering university in mexico) and I was the only one still in the industry and that's because I work remotely for a Texas company. Everyone else had already jumped to something else non engineering related.
12
u/MadRoboticist 15h ago
You're using the US as an example of what a good system is and acting like the PE license is a critical part of that. I'm telling you it isn't. The reason things are built better in the US is because there are much stricter regulations. Requiring a license to practice doesn't do anything if there aren't any standards you need to meet anyway.
6
u/DelayedG 15h ago
That's what I wanted to say, stricter regulations like asking for a PE seal in every public job, or whatever. I'm just frustrated by the fact that there are no good jobs in Mexico and leaving the country sucks. No wonder a lot of young people don't strive for higher education.
The average engineer salary in Mexico is 500 USD per month, before taxes. You literally earn more as an Uber driver.
→ More replies (3)1
u/Giblet_ 13h ago
I wouldn't say engineers make great pay. The pay is decent, but nothing like doctors or lawyers make.
9
u/DelayedG 13h ago
Take into consideration my post is using mexico as a comparison. 70k+ usd is great. I have friends who make that with EIT only. Mexico is 6k per year.
But I know where you're coming from. Compared to the US market lawyers and doctors make much more :/
12
u/hooladan2 19h ago
Beats me brother. I don't live there.
3
u/DelayedG 18h ago
See my reply
7
u/hooladan2 17h ago
¿Crees que no vale la pena que la gente obtenga un título? He oído que muchas personas necesitan ayudar a sus familias y que, si fueran a la escuela, no podrían apoyarlas. Tú sabes más que yo, pero me parece un asunto complejo. Al menos el gobierno está haciendo algo. El costo de la educación aquí en eeuu es demasiado alto para la mayoría.
4
2
u/Critical_Thinker_81 15h ago
Así es, es un filtro, quieres una vida normal sin preocupaciones? Paga por ello
→ More replies (1)2
u/Background_MilkGlass 11h ago
And do what with that? I just wasted 4 years of my life to get the same job I would have gone 4 years prior severely underfunded now
5
u/fiberopticslut 16h ago
does this mean i can get my masters in mexico for the price of a mcchicken?
2
u/Pargua 15h ago
I also heard they have better healthcare than the US.
6
u/hooladan2 15h ago
I wouldn't know that. I do know you can get lasek eye surgery at a clinic in Mexico by one of the doctors who helped invent it for a quarter of the price as the US. I've been considering it.
→ More replies (2)-28
u/InfiniteVastDarkness 19h ago
For what segment of society? You’re saying that the people coming from Mexico to work as laborers can take advantage of a free college education but… reasons?
23
30
u/hooladan2 19h ago
What? You must have my comment confused with someone elses. You said Mexico can't educate it's people. I'm saying that's false. I don't care about whatever else you're saying.
→ More replies (3)11
u/Quirky_Object_4100 18h ago
Pretty sure pay in general is bad in Mexico. I’m a second generation Mexican. I have distant family that are lawyers/teachers in Mexico have their degrees and would still rather come here and work lower skilled jobs in the US because it’s more money. The teacher I know for sure came here to work construction. The lawyer probably isn’t working full on blue collar but it’s definitely a job that he’s completely overqualified for.
→ More replies (1)16
189
u/Thor4269 20h ago
The alert might allow the Mexican government to request the person be deported into their possession by name
Since it contacts the Mexican consulate automatically as well
As opposed to ending up in detention/labor camps
He said the app would allow users to press a tab that would send an alert notification to previously chosen relatives and the nearest Mexican consulate. De la Fuente described it as a sort of panic button.
2
u/Graywulff 15h ago
I’m worried about the labor camp thing too. I don’t see how they can pick the crops or do construction if they lose that many workers.
So everything shortage and price hikes?
7
u/CyberneticSaturn 10h ago
You’re getting downvoted but it should be a real concern for everyone if the “mass deportations” actually go through. Construction is pretty unlikely but farming is definitely possible.
The incoming president compulsively lies about everything, though, so honestly it’s just as likely he never leaves the golf course and doesn’t ever actually deport anyone.
•
u/lean23_email 58m ago
Sending an alert to ones own consulate should be immediate grounds of asylum invalidation though.
-40
20h ago edited 17h ago
[removed] — view removed comment
54
u/Odie_Odie 19h ago
No, it's been in the news for several weeks. Greg Abbot wants them in Texas.
-3
19h ago
[removed] — view removed comment
21
u/Thor4269 19h ago
When is the inauguration? (note: rhetorical)
That's when it starts
They've literally said as much
Jan 20 if you forgot when Trump becomes president
→ More replies (3)20
u/MDA1912 19h ago
You must have missed this, it’s for sure not new: https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/19/texas-border-starr-county-ranch-trump-deportation/
2
u/thedndnut 17h ago
What do you think we do while they're in detention for what could be years. Man sure would be odd if we allowed slavery in the us eh?
20
u/ThatDucksWearingAHat 18h ago
"2024 (Projected): Remittances are expected to reach around $65 billion." Who could say why
5
u/CHKN_SANDO 10h ago
"Mexican government" isn't one monolith. It's many departments doing different things.
The "Secretary of Foreign Affairs" probably doesn't have much to do with schools in Mexico, I'd wager.
22
17
u/thedndnut 17h ago
It's to fast track their release. Turns out the us will detain you indefinitely if given the chance and use you as slave labor. Sure would be nice if they could contact Mexico and get released even if back in mexico
25
u/StoltATGM 19h ago
What kind of ducks ng comment is this. mexico is already a middle income country with strong manufacturing sector and an increasingly educated population. Becoming a developed country with little to no corruption is a generational mission, can't be done overnight. Just see the Mexican economy Wikipedia page.
7
u/JimmyJamesMac 14h ago
I can't imagine what a powerhouse Mexico would be with good leadership and far less corruption
8
u/ChiefCuckaFuck 19h ago
Quite the baseless accusation youre tossing around here about the entirety(?) of the mexican govt just not caring about its citizens.
-17
u/InfiniteVastDarkness 19h ago
Right. That’s why we’re discussing the issue that Mexican citizens might be deported, because they’re so well cared for in Mexico.
14
u/ChiefCuckaFuck 19h ago
Man idk where you got this style of argumentative logic, but just to let you know, it stinks.
7
u/BridgeOverRiverRMB 18h ago
How did this get so many upvotes? Mexico has a lower unemployment rate then the US. The US has been running concentration camps for years. We simply changed the name because a simple trick like that works because our population is poorly educated. "Immigrant detention sites".
30
u/InfiniteVastDarkness 17h ago
I’d suggest that it’s because the sentiment put forward by Mexico here is political posturing. Mexico doesn’t care about their poorly educated citizens that are forced to flee the country in search of a better life. Everyone here is trying to make Mexico sound wonderful but the truth of the matter is, if life in Mexico were so fantastic then the US would not have such a wedge issue like “illegal immigration”.
-14
u/das_slash 15h ago
Most illegal immigrants are from countries destabilized by the US, yes many still come from Mexico but that's because of how strong the dollar is, same reason so many Americans illegally immigrate to Mexico if they have remote jobs.
9
u/reb0909 15h ago
yeah, it's common for Mexicans to work in the US for a couple of years and save up to invest in a home or business back here. That is what my family did
7
u/das_slash 15h ago
Yep, it's like someone moving from Ohio to Manhattan, even if their lifestyle stays the same, 1 year of savings there might be 10 years of savings back home
24
u/Nightslashs 17h ago
While I may agree these camps are troublesome comparing them to concentration camps is a bit extreme isn’t it? Unless you have evidence the us is killing off these individuals / preventing them from returning to their home country?
-17
u/das_slash 15h ago
Literal concentration camps, you are talking about death camps, learn the difference.
-15
u/BridgeOverRiverRMB 15h ago
The US government is separating families and purposely losing the paperwork. Babies aren't being returned to their families. The Texas government is telling migrant workers that they'll be raped.
The US needs to set up a temporary work visa because if this gets successful, no one will be around to work farms, restaurants, construction and landscaping, among others. We've seen what happens when states crack down. Their economy suffers. The country can't handle that with the incoming leadership.
3
u/das_slash 15h ago
Racism, ignorance, clickbait titles by the media.
Most people are not smart enough to form their own opinions or actual read about the things they are talking about
2
1
u/mrarmyant 2h ago
One of its largest trading partners is also threatening majors tariffs on them which will also make it harder for them to find work locally.
0
u/Abranimal 10h ago
I have a friend. He’s a Republican turned Libertarian. Voted Trump 2016 and 2020 Abstained from the following two elections.
He moved to Mexico due to personal reasons. He says they are more free there than we are here and that it’s genuinely surprising how good their medical system is.
-2
u/TomTheNurse 11h ago
Also fascinating that children, grandchildren and great grandchildren of immigrants, hell, even some immigrants themselves voted for a guy who wants to get rid of immigrants. Everyone who immigrates here is seeking a better life. All four of my grandparents got on boats in Europe over 100 years ago and immigrated here. It’s immigration that made this country great. Not this racist, xenophobic, MAGA bullshit that is currently sweeping across this country.
-13
u/WVC_Least_Glamorous 18h ago
Mexico had a university before the English illegals landed at Plymouth Rock.
No one wants to hire anyone educated or not in a country overrun by cartels and corruption.
5
→ More replies (2)-28
u/Jellydonut7777 20h ago
Think of it as a relief valve. People are dissatisfied with the government open the border. Keeps dissension low.
18
u/Odie_Odie 19h ago
There is a seasonal migration of workers that return to Mexico after the harvest.
→ More replies (4)
138
u/Squeekydink 19h ago
Probably to ensure communication and monitor those detained. There is a "detention camp" being built in Texas to hold these individuals, and for who knows how long or for what purpose thousands of people will be held for in that camp.
82
u/imaginary_num6er 16h ago
Future Tesla workers serving penal labor under the 14th amendment
20
u/smegma_yogurt 11h ago
So they have to be deported because they're lazy scum, but fit enough to work in technical jobs in what is a modern day slave camp?
I shall name them the Schrodinger's immigrants
11
u/ZLUCremisi 7h ago
States akready profit from prisoners. They are literally slaves. An 8 hour shift csn get the state $78 and the prisoner gets $2.
10
u/MaybeTheDoctor 8h ago
Great. I’m sure that ICE would never think of subpoena a list of all the people who downloaded the app and their exact location.
5
56
u/LostWoodsInTheField 17h ago
This is really interesting and, in normal situations, be huge for both the US and Mexico. And especially for immigrants to the US (legal or not) and their families.
The app is just a 'hey I think bad things are about to happen to me' app that notifies family/friends you have setup in the app, and the Mexican consulate. The US is suppose to contact the consulate once a 'confirmed' Mexician citizen is taken into custody but there is a lot of gray area on that. What if they can't confirm it, what if they just don't care, etc.
If the US goes sideways in terms of how it deals with immigrants this gives Mexico a 'hey we know you have one of our citizens. stop playing around pretending you don't' option. It could help a LOT in slowing down the US deciding to make people disappear.
if kids have this on their phones it could help out parents a lot. I wonder if it sends a GPS location as well.
Of course abuse could be really bad with this. It could potentially be used as a tracking app by the Mexican government. What if the database gets hacked (if there is one) and it's used to round everyone that has it up. What if people are in the US legally and have the app?
a lot of good, and some bad could come from this... mostly dependent on what the next US administration decides to do.
45
u/eldenpotato 12h ago
Mexico would save itself a lot of effort if it did more to prevent the crossings in the first place
-18
u/cedenof10 10h ago
the US could’ve saved itself a lot of effort in their anti-immigration policies if they hadn’t purposefully disturbed democratic processes in central america to ensure profits for its corporations, but we don’t talk about that in the US (because we haven’t taken the time to read about it)
→ More replies (1)-38
64
u/Few_Satisfaction2601 20h ago edited 20h ago
I guess they want to be ready after they get deported back to Mexico. Deport all illegal immigrants, support the actual lawful immigrants is the way. There's a huge difference.
107
u/bassoonshine 19h ago
The system currently encourages illegal immigration and makes legal immigration much more difficult. This is a feature, not a bug
3
u/eldenpotato 12h ago
How is that encouragement? If you cbf dealing with the system in place then don’t sneak in. Immigration into any country isn’t a right
9
u/how_2_reddit 7h ago
Mind boggling how people can't grasp this concept. It's as if coming into another country is a God given right that is unjustly denied by that country having strict immigration policies or procedures.
4
u/SpectrewithaSchecter 16h ago
Yeah, the US has a hard on for slavery in any form it can get it, be it prison labor or illegal immigrants earning a couple bucks a week, gotta keep agriculture and construction labor costs cheap for those in power
13
u/TomTheNurse 11h ago
How about prosecuting those that hire them as well? Isn’t that also illegal? If they’re working in the fields seize the farm and toss the land owner in prison. If they’re working construction seize the work site and toss the contractors in prison. Working as a maid or a nanny? Seize the home and toss the homeowner in prison. Cleaning an office building? Seize the property and toss the owner in prison. Stocking the shelves at a grocery store? Seize the business and imprison the owner. Washing dishes? Seize the restaurant and toss the owner in prison.
Since you seem so hell bent on going after people doing illegal things why not advocate for that as well? Or are you only comfortable going after poor brown people instead of rich white people?
2
u/burnbabyburn711 20h ago
Fair enough, but I don’t want to hear any complaints about grocery prices.
37
u/Fappy_as_a_Clam 16h ago
Be careful with this argument.
Because what your saying is that the ag companies are using illegal labor so they can pay them less than American workers.
Which leads to acknowledging that increasing wages does in fact increase cost of goods for the consumer, and that is not a popular line of thinking here on Reddit.
15
u/burnbabyburn711 15h ago
I don’t much care what is or isn’t a popular argument on Reddit. If you pay workers more, and employers are looking to keep the same profit margins, then that obviously means the consumer will pay the difference. My argument is, if you rely on workers being paid a non living wage to keep the cost of your goods low, that’s kind of shitty.
American consumers who want cheaper groceries don’t know how good they have it with undocumented workers. What are those workers going to do? Unionize? Take their complaints to the authorities? They’ll work long hours doing dangerous, and/or back-breaking labor, and take shit wages for it, which keeps the prices on your produce down.
I’m not exactly an advocate for having undocumented people in the United States, but cracking down on illegal immigration isn’t really a priority for me. I don’t see them as any kind of serious threat, and I’m well aware that our economy and lifestyle depends to some extent on having people willing to do undesirable jobs for low pay. Anyone who wants to change that should at least know what they’re asking for.
6
u/dylanx300 15h ago edited 15h ago
Not quite accurate when we’ve had record profits that just keep growing over the last few years, and executive compensation continues blowing through all time highs at an even faster rate.
If companies choose cheaper labor and reduce cost on that side, they can then either (1) lower prices for their goods while maintaining a similar profit margin as before, OR, (2) they can keep their prices exactly the same, despite lower input costs, and end up with larger margins and greater profits. What do you think they’re choosing? The option that ends with lower/similar profits, or the option that makes their bottom line go up? The latter is more of what we have been seeing recently. That’s in large part because food demand is fairly inelastic by nature: whether it’s good times, bad times, high prices, low prices—everyone still needs food for the week and they will continue buying groceries.
When profits and executive compensation are at an all time high, that means there is room for wages to go up without needing to raise prices. The big ag CEOs might need to live with a $30MM annual bonus instead of a $50MM bonus, oh no! But that will never happen because too many people like you focus on entry-level wages rising and fearmonger about that potential to increase prices, all while completely ignoring how much room there is on the c-suite and stock buyback side of the equation to raise wages without affecting prices in any significant way.
7
u/BubbaTee 14h ago
complaints about grocery prices
"If we pay McDonalds workers $15/hour, hamburgers will cost $50!"
Congrats on making the argument against increased wages.
0
u/burnbabyburn711 13h ago
“If we pay McDonalds workers $15/hour, hamburgers will cost $50!”
I appreciate your congratulations, but it appears that you have misattributed this quote to me.
-81
u/Mithra10 20h ago
No major farm is employing migrants as they would have to commit tax fraud to do it.
Prices will rise under Trump no doubt, but it won’t have anything to do with people that enter the country illegally.
58
u/AnonAqueous 20h ago
Lol, lmao even.
https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-economy/farm-labor/#legalstatus
The share of hired crop farmworkers who were not legally authorized to work in the United States grew from roughly 14 percent in 1989–91 to almost 55 percent in 1999–2001; in recent years it has declined to about 40 percent.
29
u/CriticalEngineering 19h ago
No major farm is employing migrants as they would have to commit tax fraud to do it.
Oh yeah, just like restaurants! And hotels! All legal immigrants, totes!
32
28
u/ChiefCuckaFuck 19h ago
Every single major farm employs "illegal" migrant workers.
Whatever brand name produce you enjoy and buy, employs tens of thousands of migrant workers.
This has been the industry standard since the 1960s. The entire industry will be effectively crippled if the US was able to enact wholly effective immigration sweeps.
16
u/burnbabyburn711 19h ago
What a relief! I was under the impression that somewhere on the order of 50% of agricultural laborers were undocumented. I feel so silly now tbh.
7
u/fastolfe00 17h ago
You're missing the point. The intention here is to ensure that Mexican nationals have access to consular services if they need them.
The problem here is that Trump has vowed to go on a mass deportation spree. Many Mexican nationals are here completely legally, if not dual citizens. Trump's (delusionally) ambitious plan has a high risk of catching regular Mexican nationals up in its dragnet, and given some of the rhetoric from places like Texas, it's unclear how these people will be treated, what kinds of camps they might end up in, whether they will have access to their phone or other ways of communication, or whether they might just be disappeared.
Mexico is simply reacting to the anti-immigrant and anti-Mexican sentiment that surrounds Trump by giving their nationals the means to get consular assistance at a time when US rhetoric is hostile toward Mexicans.
→ More replies (1)2
u/Thor4269 17h ago edited 16h ago
Legal immigrants are not safe from Trump.
Trump created a department of denaturalization within the DoJ towards the end of his first term and he's openly said he wants to deport entire families as well as end birthright citizenship
Denaturalizations will be "supercharged"
Being a legal citizen, naturalized or birthright, will not protect you
And that's not even going into Trump discussing suspending the Constitution and declaring martial law which would mean rights and citizenship mean nothing at all
https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4992787-trump-deportation-plan-immigration/
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/shows/maddow/blog/rcna171265
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/08/trump-maga-immigration-project-2025
-3
u/khast 12h ago edited 47m ago
I guess I should be glad I'm white.... Because other than being born to two American citizens, I was not born in the country, and thus my birth certificate is not in English. (And I have had my citizenship questioned multiple times by federal agents as a result.)
I'm not saying this because I want to be mean, because you know that people in my situation that aren't white will be scrutinized hard because the administration is extremely racist. They've already said the quiet parts out loud, and people in my situation should be wary because of this administration.
2
•
2
u/Laureles2 1h ago
It'd be great if the U.S. had one of these for the occasions when I decide to illegally enter China or Russia.
-2
-3
-6
u/Far_Adeptness9884 19h ago
Mexico, here's all the Coke and beheadings you want, but if you're detained in the US pleas let us know.
-4
u/WVC_Least_Glamorous 18h ago
If the Mexican government knows you are coming back, then they can shake down your family for Mordidas.
-4
-8
u/VillainWorldCards 18h ago edited 16h ago
For this app to work it would have to have access to your phones GPS location and the ability to transmit in the background. Which means, while purportedly designed to help migrants who have been apprehended by the US authorities, the backend for this app could actually enhance their ability to apprehend migrants. This app could be used to apprehend immigrants just as easily as it's used to help them.
This app is like a fire extinguisher made out of oily rags.
18
u/maverick88988 17h ago edited 16h ago
This app isn't "designed to help migrants evade the US authorities", this app is made so that the Mexican government can quickly track it citizens, if they happen to get detain, and request their citizens so they get appropriately send back to Mexico instead of be locked up for months, did you even read the article? Your analogy makes no sense.
Edit: So it appears you edited your comment, but I'm still going to leave my quotation that quoted your original comment. Next time, read the article instead of making assumptions based on a headline.
-3
-24
u/Enrico_Tortellini 20h ago
Can’t anyone download the app though, I’d imagine people just downloading it and making fake reports…seems like a waste of money, and doing nothing to help the actual issues
15
u/KiwiLobsterPinch 20h ago
I’m going on a limb and saying it’s going to require their personal ID number(s) to authenticate. They have CURP numbers, a birth registry, national ID cards, passports. Any of these a consulate can look up to id the person
→ More replies (11)
-18
u/Critical_Thinker_81 15h ago
Does anyone has the link to the app? I need to share it with my fellow immigrants
339
u/P0Rt1ng4Duty 20h ago
Considering the number of people who die trying to make the trip, at least their loved ones will know they're ''safe'' before losing contact.