r/motogp • u/Bitter-Substance1783 • 8d ago
Marc Márquez and Red Bull part ways
https://www.todocircuito.com/noticias/37751-marc-marquez-y-red-bull-separan-sus-caminos.html275
u/SergeiYeseiya 8d ago
He is really mad about not receiving Pérez's seat it seems...
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 8d ago
Must be looking at Max going “You’re on how much a year????”
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u/Organic-Package5444 Jorge Martín 8d ago
Would I have someone like myself as a teammate? Of course not! At the same time, you want someone strong at your side, but not a second Marc
Marc saying no to another Marc in same garage 😬
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u/TonguePunchMyClunge Fabio Di Giannantonio 8d ago
Basically all of Marc’s personal sponsors are in conflict with Ducati’s. It’ll be interesting to see if he’ll keep an off the books partnership with them and go back to them if he ever leaves Ducati. I think Red Bull and Oakley will definitely want him back but I’m not so sure about the others.
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u/RaDon91 8d ago
It is truly astonishing that marc, as a rider, has as personal sponsors the same types of companies that also sponsor a team. In some cases his sponsors are even "bigger" than those of ducati (Allianz compared to Unipol for example)
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u/RabidGuineaPig007 8d ago
Any corporation would realize a Marquez or Rossi is far more exposure than any team.
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u/combo_seizure Danilo Petrucci 8d ago
It's fun reading that article, considering everything we know now.
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u/rotorain 7d ago
At this point does Marc need personal sponsors? Dude's probably set for life. I'm sure he wants more money but given the choice between money and winning I think we all know what he'd choose.
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 8d ago
Respect to the fella for refusing to replace RB personal sponsorship for Monster. He clearly still regards himself as a Red Bull athlete, after these past couple of decades with them.
Gonna completely ignore his platitudes towards Pecco, he wants the number one place in the garage from Thailand. And he’ll fight like hell for it! 🤣
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u/CaptCruxx Marc Márquez 8d ago
If he leaves Ducati I see him joining Redbull again.
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 8d ago
100% they love him, look how many films they’ve made about him. His contract is probably only suspended until further notice to not breach Ducati’s contract with Monster.
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u/edgygothteen69 Maverick Viñales 8d ago
I'm sure they have a handshake agreement or maybe a bonus payment to have Marc stay independent for now
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 7d ago
What a fascinating idea, not officially sponsored by RB but still paid an undisclosed amount “not to be sponsored by a competitor“ Not like they’re short of a few quid.
The way these drinks companies work, I’d consider that a very smart play by RB 🤣
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u/Joooooooosh 8d ago
Depends how his career goes…
Think we all know he’ll kill it on a new Ducati but Acosta might be their new favourite.
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 8d ago
Without any doubt Acosta is the next potential era defining rider, and hopefully it’ll be Alonso coming up to face that challenge as well.
All the top riders are in the wrong half of their 20’s these days.
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u/HawkIsARando 8d ago
He is almost definitely getting paid by RB to not wear Monster.
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 8d ago
Interesting thought…. Not considered that.
Wonder if we’ll see him in RB colours away from the factory? As long as he’s not wearing anything tied to the team, I wonder if he could?
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u/HawkIsARando 8d ago
Not sure.
Good chance that, since he made a point of deliberately announcing this very clearly and publicly, he will entirely avoid associating with RB during his ducati tenure.
we'll see!
definitely not looking forward to seeing estrella galicia on his helmet (i think it's an ugly logo)
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u/Unfair-Employee5210 Marc Márquez 8d ago
All the sacrifices including pay from honda, basic pay from gresini, leaving money from monster(ducati is not about money) just to get in a ducati factory shows what's coming. After this, if people still believe marcs downplay about himself, fool is the right word.
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u/Luthais327 Trackhouse MotoGP Team 8d ago
Ducati factory base pay is low as well. Riders rely on win bonuses for income to equal other factories salaries.
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u/JuicedGixxer 8d ago
Over the years, Marc has shown he does things for the principle. Especially when it comes to loyalty. Got to respect a guy like that.
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u/RabidGuineaPig007 8d ago
He has enough money and he knows it. This isn't F1, where drivers evade taxes in Monaco then ironically fly the flags of the country they abandoned.
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u/latestagepersonhood Andrea Dovizioso 8d ago
Spanish revenue agents would beg to differ. specifically in the case of one, Jorge Lorenzo.
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u/rjbgarrulo1 MotoGP 8d ago
Most of Riders live in Andorra though to evade taxes aswell, even though marc lives in madrid and pays his taxes in spain.
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u/Cr4shK00l Marc Márquez 7d ago
To be fair, the taxes in Spain are a robbery.
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u/rjbgarrulo1 MotoGP 7d ago
No lol they finance the many services spain has that make it the best place in the world to live
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u/Cr4shK00l Marc Márquez 7d ago
It's still a violation to an individual's basic freedom to do as they will with their salary. I'll leave it there because we're getting into non motogp territory.
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u/rjbgarrulo1 MotoGP 7d ago
Yeah that's probably a discussion for other subs, anyway, marc still choses to do it on spain and i was just highlighing that, in contrast to other riders, as fabio, aleix or jorge that reside in andorra
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u/CrazyCycler1209 Alonso Lopez 8d ago
Well yes, they do happen not to live in Monaco, but I'm not so sure about the whole not evading taxes thing.
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u/Mechanical1996 Marc Márquez 8d ago
Yep, the definition of putting all his eggs in one basket! That shows how committed he is to winning - I don't think any other rider would have given so much up...
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u/Yung_Chloroform 8d ago
Yeah Marc is all in next season and the personal sacrifices he's making just to win show it. Very excited to see how he does next year.
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u/Lguihon Jorge Martin - 2024 MotoGP World Champion 8d ago
Monster's is, together with Lenovo, Ducati's main sponsor in MotoGP, and is with Aruba in SBK. If you were responsible for Monster's sponsorship program, would you accept a rider on the podium with a Red Bull in his hands, when you spend millions a year to sponsor that rider team?! Would Quartararo at KTM maintain sponsorship of Monsters? I don't think so. A logical decision to separate Marc and Red Bull, the partnership could continue in the post-Ducati future.
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u/yarnwildebeest Jack Miller 8d ago
I plan to win the championship and then sign with redbull once again.
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u/Brismannen 8d ago
Kind of makes sense. Monster Energy is a pretty large sponsor for Ducati, having both of those brands on the same bike or leathers is probably breach of contract
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 8d ago
No more Oakley either I suspect for same reason.
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u/Scoottchy 8d ago
Wait, his contract with Oakley is cancelled as well? This is wild!
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u/dsswill Marc Márquez 8d ago
Yup, he’ll definitely have to drop Samsung due to Lenovo being Ducati’s title sponsor and will likely have to drop Oakley for Carrera, Estrella Galicia for Contadi Castaldi, and Allianz for Unipol.
All said, it’s entirely possible due to the loss of massive personal sponsors that he’s taking a further pay cut from Gresini to join the factory team. Red Bull, at least, has a history of renewing their sponsorships after hiatuses like this, and as others have suspected, they may even pay athletes retainers to keep them loyal for down the road.
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 8d ago
Forgot about Samsung, so many badges on these top guys. Estrella Galacia should be safe though as the Marquez brothers sponsor??
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u/dsswill Marc Márquez 8d ago
Ya Alex won’t need to drop anything unless sponsors pull out because they were mostly sponsoring Marc (I doubt it because they’d want to keep the relationship), and Marc might not even have to drop Estrella Galicia since it’s a beer company so not necessarily directly competing with Contadi Castaldi/Cavinona which makes sparkling wine, and I don’t believe any of the Cavinona owners produce beer, so we’ll see.
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 8d ago
Conflict of interest with the team’s eyewear sponsor, something beginning with cer….. something??
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u/MotorsportMerchant Miguel Oliveira 8d ago
It was to be expected but at least Max and Marc had a show together for Red Bull before Marc left the brand.
It will be strange to see Marc on a Factory Ducati and with no Red Bull sponsor on the helmet to make it a bit harder to get used to.
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u/Individual-Shock-307 8d ago
Marc’s commitment and appreciation for his long time sponsor has always been really nice to see tbh. The lack of Red Bull on his helmet and caps will take some getting used to.
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u/I_R0M_I Marc Márquez 8d ago
I thought him turning down a personal deal with Monster, meant there would be some small hope left for Red Bull. Obviously not on the bike, but it was said he may have a small logo on his helmet etc.
I know he's rolling in it, but quite the move to decline Monster out of respect. Bit of a fuck you to Monster, I'd rather be sponsored by no one, than be sponsored by you 😂
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u/MrPixar Marc Márquez 8d ago
I'm so stoked about no monster logos on his helmet! The logos so ugly and usually all over the place!
The helmet will looks much cleaner with no redbull or monster plus what drink that he will pose with on podiums?
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u/Minute_Tooth5112 MotoGP 8d ago
There was already information that the place on the helmet will be occupied by Estrella Galicia, as well as the logo on the bottle. Also, Marc will be able to retain the presence of Red Bull, but as Alpha Tauri
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u/skinofstars Jack Miller 8d ago
Translation - chatgpt
Marc Márquez Ends Partnership with Red Bull as He Looks Ahead to Ducati Challenge
Marc Márquez, six-time MotoGP world champion, has confirmed his split from Red Bull, the iconic sponsor that has been a constant throughout much of his career in the premier class. The announcement came during the season-ending gala, Sport & Talk aus dem Hangar 7, held in Salzburg, where Márquez reflected on his past, present, and the exciting challenge that awaits him in 2025 as a factory Ducati rider.
In a tone filled with gratitude, Márquez explained the reasons behind the decision:
"This is my last event with them. Ducati has a different sponsor, so we can't continue. Out of respect for Red Bull, I won't have a personal sponsor in this regard. I want to thank the Red Bull family, and I hope we can remain friends."The split marks the end of a partnership that went beyond sports for Márquez, who has decided not to collaborate with another energy drink brand in the future. Red Bull was a crucial supporter for the Spanish rider during his most successful years and through the difficult times, including challenging seasons with Honda.
The gala also served as a platform for Márquez to discuss his move to the factory Ducati team, where he will share the garage with two-time world champion Pecco Bagnaia. Márquez didn't hide his emotions about the transition:
"I’m joining the world champion team. I already feel the pressure, but this is what I wanted. I chose to leave my comfort zone at Honda because I needed a change, and now I have this opportunity."Márquez highlighted the differences he anticipates in his new role:
"At Honda, I was always the number one. New riders came in trying to match me, but now I’m joining a team where Pecco has achieved so much in recent years. My approach will be different, and I also want to learn from him. Of course, my goal remains to win."The Spaniard reflected on the balance required between rivalry and collaboration within a team:
"Would I want someone like myself as a teammate? Definitely not! At the same time, you want someone strong beside you, but not a second Marc. This year was unusual having my brother on the team; on track, you're rivals, but that rivalry is necessary too."Márquez also took stock of his experience with Gresini Racing in 2024, a team he credited for helping him regain his competitive edge:
"The relationship with the Gresini team was incredible from day one. We faced some mechanical issues, but that happens. What matters is how the team supports you in those moments, and with them, it was always with a smile and encouragement."This stint with Gresini not only revitalized his confidence but also served as a springboard to Ducati, currently regarded as the best bike in the championship.
"They always said I was on the best bike. Now, Ducati’s garage is the best place to fight for the title," Márquez declared.Turning a New Page
The split with Red Bull and the start of his Ducati era mark a turning point in Márquez's career. After a decade of triumphs and overcoming what he has described as “the toughest two years of my career,” Márquez looks ahead with optimism:
"Physically, I feel very strong. I can't wait for the season to start. If I don’t win, I hope Pecco does, but I will always try to be there to win."
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u/phlaug Aprilia Racing 8d ago
I don’t know how to set up polls in here , but if someone does and was so inclined, I’d be curious to know if people prefer Red Bull, Monster, another type of Energy drink or don’t like Energy drinks at all
Like I like Monster’s Rehab (sort of a half and half iced tea/lemaondarw) once in a while — maybe buy four to six a year, but generally drink Red Bulls, like maybe 48 to 60 per year. Maybe a plain Monstwer a couple times a year.
Which team and / or rider they are supporting won’t change those habits one iota.
Is there a significant demographic that would change and drinks so much of this product that it makes sense?
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u/venomous_frost 8d ago
it's not about changing people's habits, it's about getting young people to prefer one over the other.
There's no reason to prefer Coca Cola either, except everyone just grew up with it. (Or Pepsi depending where you live)
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u/DellyTrey23 8d ago
Red Bull are fucked in MotoGP if Pedro lands with Ducati as well. They may as well sponsor Aprilia and hope Martin delivers good results.
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u/EternalFront Aprilia Racing 8d ago
Monster sucks except for the Vale flavor. And their logo is butt ugly
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u/Pale-Criticism-7420 Marc Márquez 7d ago
Is the VR46 Monster still a thing? Ever since he’s been retired they have completely disappeared from the stores where I live. They’ve now been replaced by the Lewis Hamilton flavour (which is actually pretty decent, as someone who doesn’t usually drink monster, this is the one I do buy from time to time)
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u/EternalFront Aprilia Racing 6d ago
I tried one at this Asian import store near me and it was great
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u/earthquank 8d ago
"who has decided not to work with another energy drink brand in the future."
Sounds like he's leaving the door wide open for post Ducati/monster.
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 8d ago
That’s not what he said.
He’s not having another energy drink company as a personal sponsor out of respect to Red Bull and what they’ve done for him personally.
Nothing he can do about the bike sponsors btw
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u/RabidGuineaPig007 8d ago
I would like to see a moral stance on refusing energy drink money because of the health effects on teens. Some progressive countries have banned them. Not sure what the difference is to tobacco or alcohol.
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u/Mr_Tigger_ Gresini Racing MotoGP 8d ago
I 100% agree as someone once pretty much addicted to the stuff a few years back. It’s really awful stuff beyond light moderation. But it’s not regulated like tobacco and alcohol so no issue.
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u/Possession_Loud 8d ago
He has been sponsored by Samsung too, although other than a few videos and stories on his IG account i haven't really seen anything on his leathers at all?
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u/Altair13Sirio Valentino Rossi 8d ago
It's gonna be weird to see him hold a Monster can.
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u/Pale-Criticism-7420 Marc Márquez 7d ago
He won’t, he has refused sponsorship by other energy drinks companies (ie, Monster). It’ll be on the bike but not on his suit/helmet and he won’t have a can after the race either
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u/Altair13Sirio Valentino Rossi 7d ago
Ah I see. It's cool that he was so loyal to the brand, it's probably gonna sting for Monster that he refused.
Guess his crew won't need to fill up any can with water to make it look like he's drinking that lol
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u/KICKERMAN360 Daijiro Kato 8d ago
You can guarantee that Red Bull will sponsor him again when he leaves Ducati. It has happened a few times. I am convinced Red Bull also pay a retainer to their “on hiatus” athletes as well. Best example was when Travis Pastrana sponsored himself for a while (under Nitro Circus).
Marc is very committed to race results and Ducati wouldnt budge from Monster unless Red Bull sponsored the whole team. Also surprising for Monster since they have reduced sponsorships in other sports recently.