r/gtaonline • u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program • Mar 27 '19
AFK Money Guide ($5.4M/2hrs of sales)
Hey all,
I see lots of people asking for the best way to make money, so I thought I'd re-write my guide to update and clean things up.
ADVANTAGES:
-Minimizes grind time (about 1 hour for 1 character, 2 hours for 2 characters).
-Lots of money (~$2.7M/hr).
DRAWBACKS:
-Lots of AFK time. Most people have plenty of time to AFK while they are asleep, out of the house, or otherwise just not playing. It may put a strain on your console/PC after a while, but I never had problems with my OG XBox1. You don't need to AFK (you can play), but it will cut into your bottom line a bit.
-High cost of entry. You will need fully upgraded Nightclub/Bunker/Coke/Meth/Cash/Special Cargo OR Airfrieght businesses, and (optional) non-upgraded Weed/Document businesses. Its not cheap to start, but I'm sure many of you have some of these already, and you don't need everything to get started. Fully upgrade each business before buying the next, and you'll want to buy in this order: Bunker>Cargo>Coke>Meth>Cash>Nightclub>(Weed)>(Docs) and you can build yourself up. Again, its expensive, but you can start small and work your way up.
TIPS:
-Remember that if you give a prospect the title of Road Captain they can instaspawn a (weaponless) Buzzard just like you can in a CEO org. (Sidenote, Sargent at Arms can spawn Molotovs, one of the only ways to get them in the game)
-Join a friendly crew. Not only will this make your sales quicker and let you sell in safe lobbies, but you can earn a bonus up to 25% (1% for each person in the lobby that isn't in your MC when you complete the sale). I joined PCEO, but I'm sure there are lots of options out there for each platform.
-Always have at least 1 helper inside the business before you start the sale. This adds 3 potential missions to the pool, and they are all super fast bag drops that can be done in under 5 minutes.
-Remotely resupply. I'm sure there is a method for this on PS4/PC, but on XB I used a program called Parsec on my PC and Andriod to remotely resupply. Open the XB app on your PC and stream your XB to the app. Use Parsec to stream your PC to your Android device, and connect your XB controller to your Android via Bluetooth for easy control. The lag is bad, but its responsive enough to resupply.
-Buy your properties in the Sandy Shores area. Bunker/Coke/Meth/Cash/Facility/MC Clubhouse are all in this area, and they will have the shortest sell missions.
-If you decide to use 2 characters (maximum money) you will likely want a Buzzard, Insurgent/Kuruma (for dealing with raids), and an OP1 or OP2 to quickly move around the map.
-You can use your Facility to instantly travel back to your business area. Just make sure you have started one of the new Heists and you should have a permanent invitation in your phone to continue it. You can accept the job without disrupting your next sale and save some travel time.
-AFKing alone in a contact mission will prevent you from paying daily fees and wont add minutes to your raid timer.
85% OFF SUPPLIES (Thanks to /u/JamwesD for this tip)
While not necessary, this will help your profit margins quite a bit. This is an example of a "cycle". When you are ready to AFK:
Purchase or manually fully resupply Bunker/Coke/Meth/Cash.
Wait for each business to use 1 tick of supplies.
Purchase all supplies.
Start a contact mission alone before the supplies from step 3 are delivered.
Go to a property with a security camera (I used the MC Clubhouse as its right next to all the business you need to resupply).
Watch your security camera. Some people plug in and rubber band their controller here, but for some reason I always got kicked when I tried that. What worked for me was taking the battery out of my controller (turning it off through menus DID NOT work, I had to physically take the battery out, put it back in, then leave the controller off). If on XBox make sure you turn off the "Idle Options" in the XBox settings or you will be kicked for being idle.
When done AFKing (about 2 hours 20 minutes per cycle, but you can go longer) quit to single player. DO NOT just quit the game. It is possible to just drop back into a public lobby, but I had problems with this some times when I wasn't able to connect to one and my AFK progress was lost or set back. Quitting to single player guarantees that your progress will be saved.
After rejoining a public lobby, wait about 8 minutes. All of your supplies should be gone and newly prepared product waiting. After about 8 minutes the supplies you purchased for 15K (in step 3) each will be delivered, completely refilling your bar as if you had purchased 75K of supplies.
MY ROUTINE
-Have full supplies.
-Play!
-Before hopping off resupply both characters, and repurchase supplies on both as mentioned above.
-AFK on Character 1 while I sleep.
-In the morning rejoin a public lobby, wait for supplies to be delivered, repurchase after 1 tick used, AFK again.
-Around lunch time hop back on (remotely or in person) and rejoin a public lobby.
-Switch characters, AFK again.
-Come home and sell. Go Cash > Meth > Coke > Bunker. Coke and Bunker take a little bit longer to fill, so working on the other 2 first will allow them to accumulate a little bit more.
THE MATH
Bunker - After 2.5 cycles per character, each sale will give you about 600K.
Coke - After 2.5 cycles per character, each sale will give you 420K.
Meth - After 2 cycles per character, each sale will give you 357K.
Cash - After 2 cycles per character, each sale will give you 294K.
Nightclub - Each hour of AFk will net you about 60k. With one overnight cycle (~8 hours), and 3 fast (2:20) cycles, your 2 nightclubs should combine for about another $1M.
So for 1 character, after paying 15K for each resupply at each business (about 9 resupplies total), you should be profiting about $2,166,000 for 5 sales.
For 2 characters you'll be profiting about $4,342,000 for 10 sales, or about $2,171,000/hr
If you're selling in a busy lobby you can add 25%, for about $5,427,500 in profits, or about $2,713,750/hr.
COMPARISONS
I dont have a lot of experience with the other money making businesses, but from a bit of research here are the numbers I found for the other methods.
IMPORT/EXPORT
With 3 helpers and efficient sources/sells:
1X$ ~ $384K/hr
1.5X$ ~ $576K/hr
2X$ ~ $768K/hr
SPECIAL CARGO
Max efficiency (2 warehouses back and fourth):
1X$ ~ $307K/hr
1.5X$ ~ $461K/hr
2X$ ~ $614K/hr
CONCLUSION
So that's what I used to do when I was grinding. If anyone has any questions please post below and I'll do my best to answer.
Also if anyone has more accurate numbers for the non-passive businesses please comment and I will update my figures.
I will also ask the mods to replace my original guide on the Mega Thread.
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u/Kaytu1 Jun 19 '19 edited Jun 19 '19
20/6/2019 its still works! Thank you u/_Tonan
i bought house in paleto bay(where my bunker is) so whenever i get supply for 15k i run to my house then start contact mission in my house then i am wathcing tv for 2.3 hrs. After this as you mentioned i am quiting to single player and loging back to online after 10 mins i get new 15k supply . Thank you so much
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Apr 04 '19
In the xbox settings there should be a section about idle settings. You want to turn it off.
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u/TheDentalExplorer Apr 06 '19
Awesome guide! I’m a returning player and I think this is exactly what I’m looking for.
Would I be able to use this method and do the sales by myself, or would I be getting sale missions that really require at least two people? (I.e. delivering more than 1 vehicle to a location)
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Apr 06 '19
You can solo all the MC sales forms sandy shores except post Op Van's, but I would reccomend checking out a friendly crew for help selling f
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u/s8nlovesme Cryhard Killer Apr 12 '19
Do you need to not finish the contact mission and just go to single player after 2hrs?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Apr 12 '19
~2.5 hours
And no, you dont need to finish the mission. I hold down on the dpad to being up the character select and switch to trevor
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u/s8nlovesme Cryhard Killer Apr 12 '19
Gr8 thx, haven't yet been able to get the 15k in supplies to convert to a full bar.
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Apr 12 '19
What steps are you taking?
You have to start the contact job before the 2nd set of supplies you bought arrive, and while your supplies are 99% full.
The 15k resupply comes after you rejoin GTAO after leaving the contact mission.
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u/s8nlovesme Cryhard Killer Apr 12 '19
Yes, I do all that. The only thing I was doing different was joining freemode after the contact mission not single player.
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Apr 12 '19
The only problem with joining freemode is that sometimes you get stuck in the clouds. As long as you successfully load into a new session you should be fine.
Once you've loaded in you need to wait about 8 minutes for the supplies you ordered before starting the job to be delivered
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u/s8nlovesme Cryhard Killer Apr 12 '19
Not sure what is going on then. I do wait about 10 mins. Then go back to bunker to see a full bar of stock, but zero supplies
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Apr 12 '19
You must not be purchasing them and starting the job before they are delivered, that's the only thing I can think of.
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u/s8nlovesme Cryhard Killer Apr 12 '19
Yea, that's y I was curious if it was patched, I start the contact mission right away. Oh well, thx for the help, and great guide!
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Apr 12 '19
Hey one last thing I thought of:
While waiting for supplies while in free roam are you watching security cameras or TV? I've definitely missed supplies before while doing that.
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u/dragon54 Aug 17 '19
i don't know why but look like r* change something, i afk for about 2 hours and my bunker cargo value only increase by 40$ (my bunker have all the staff and equipment upgraded)
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 17 '19
I havent tried in about 6 months, but I havent heard anyone else say they're having a problem yet. When you come back after 2 hours of afk what's happening in your game?
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u/dragon54 Aug 18 '19
it just happen after this week patch applied yesterday, before i afk the bunker cargo value is 28k$, then i got in the mission contract and afk for about 2 hours, after that i go to offline and go back online and the cargo value only increased to 70k$, each 7 mins bunker produce 7k$ then after 2 hours it should make about 114-121k$ like it usually do. And it just happen right after this week patch, everything was fine before.
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 21 '19
Are you still having the problem?
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u/blueboy_01 Aug 21 '19
This is also happening to me, I afk in a mission for 3+ hours/complete one cycle only to find my bunker stock around 90k. R* definitely changed something. Note: I have my staff at 50-50
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 25 '19
I have my staff at 50-50
I'm not sure what the numbers are when you split tasks, but if you're seeing less than you used to when it was 50/50 something may be up. Can you walk me through what you're doing after you pick up your controller from being afk for a few hours?
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u/Ponchaiwa Aug 29 '19
I tried it last night, I think it’s still working. I’ll have to check later after work to be 100% sure
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u/TotesMessenger May 28 '19
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u/RS_Zwickshaw May 29 '19
So afking during Contact mission is the key here and that allows you to have full supplies while only paying 15k for them? That seems like a major bug. Isn't bug abuse bannable, i really don't know.
Anyway, the way you described how to not get kicked for idling. Doesn't just putting on an autoclicker work (or equivalent). I was wonder if something like continuously going in and out of a vehicle work? Telling my 'autoclicker' to continuously press Triangle.
Very detailed guide, well done
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jun 21 '19
I was wonder if something like continuously going in and out of a vehicle work? Telling my 'autoclicker' to continuously press Triangle.
I dont see why that wouldn't work
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u/P0s1t1veFdBkL000p Jun 08 '19
Would anyone happen to know if setting up AFK in a Contact Missïn would still allow NC stock to accure? I think I saw a mention of it stopping the NC from accruing any stock while I'm an Instance.
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jun 21 '19
Sorry I just saw your comment. NC will produce in a contact mission, but your NC safe will not fill up, nor will your popularity go down.
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u/P0s1t1veFdBkL000p Jun 21 '19
Thanks, don't keep Popularity up so that's nbd. Just looking to cut my daily fees/losses to a minimum!
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u/mallic44 May 24 '19
Can I do these steps in a solo glitched public session on Xbox or do I have to do it in a normal public session? The only thing that I feel would mess up doing a solo glitched lobby is that I can’t go to story mode and then back to a normal public session. I have to quit and then restart my game in order to reset the ability to got to SP And online
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program May 24 '19
You can resupply in a NAT solo session no problem. Like you said, you may have issues connecting to new online session after quitting the contact mission.
If you quit to single player from the contact mission you dont have to worry about reconnecting to a public lobby right away. Quitting to single player saves all the progress your businesses have made.
You do have to reconnect to an online lobby for your supplies to be delivered though, so if you need to quit and re open the game after going to single player that should be fine.
Note that supplies will be delivered in an invite only lobby, you just can't buy another round in an invite only lobby.
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u/cwhiteh2 g0lgatha Jun 13 '19 edited Jun 13 '19
When you say remotely resupplying, you mean you are not at home so you use your phone to play the game (travel to each MC biz and pay for refill)?
Also, Why do you have to quit to single player after AFK. Can't you play like normal? Thanks.
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jun 21 '19
When you say remotely resupplying, you mean you are not at home so you use your phone to play the game (travel to each MC biz and pay for refill)?
Yes, you can log in remotely to your xbox using Parsec (I'm sure PC and PS4 have similar options).
Also, Why do you have to quit to single player after AFK. Can't you play like normal?
Quitting to single player saves your progress. I e had times where I quit the mission by hitting "find a new session" and I got stuck in the clouds. After quitting the game and loading into online some progress on my businessee had been lost, so I always quit to single player first now.
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u/garghgargh Jun 15 '19
When you say special cargo, are you referring to the hangar business?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jun 15 '19
Crates in warehouses, not hangars
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u/garghgargh Jun 15 '19
I have the special cargo warehouse but it seems like nothing can be upgraded except for visuals.
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u/-Zemmos Jun 21 '19
I keep getting stuck at Step 6. Anywhere I got to during contact missions, whether it be my apartment or mc clubhouse, I can’t watch my sechrity cams. I’m stuck flipping between the same two channels. Staying on either of those two kicks me for being idle after awhile. I don’t get it
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jun 21 '19
What system? In a mission you have to watch TV, not security cameras.
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u/-Zemmos Jun 21 '19
Ps4.
But I think I got it now. Another comment in a different thread mentioned having to start the mission inside your apartment. Not sure if that’s what made the difference though.
And thanks for all the tips by the way.
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jun 21 '19
I'm not on PS4 so I'm not sure if there are different things you need to do, but it shouldnt matter where you start the job from if I had to guess. But hey, if it works it works!
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u/grin_ferno Aug 22 '19
This was a while ago, but maybe will help someone.
I had this too. When you go into your mission and try to switch channels, you'll get that. And if you try to watch now, the screen doesn't zoom in all the way to full screen, if you get my meaning. Eventually you'll get kicked.
I was able to put on the channel I wanted before going into mission "Titan of a job" and once in there I was able to watch normally (it zoomed to full screen) and not get kicked as long as I didn't change channel.
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u/KaseZer0 Jun 23 '19
Just for clarification, do you mean you need to max out all of the businesses in the same type? Like do you need only one maxed out cocaine business or all of them maxed out?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jun 23 '19
You need all production upgrades on all the businesses. I'd also reccomend security upgrades.
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u/KaseZer0 Jun 23 '19
So in other words, to completely set up for just the cocaine business, you need...
Alamo Sea: 975,000 Paleto Bay: 1,098,000 Elysian Island: 1,462,500 Morningwood: 1,852,500 Upgrades 1,895,000 x 4 Total for cocaine businesses: 12,967,000
Right? So basically you're looking at around 80-ish mil for totally setting up everything (gunrunning + cocaine + meth + counterfeit)
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jun 23 '19
Sorry I misunderstood, you can only have one coke biz, one meth, etc. But you should fully upgrade them.
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u/Pashay Jun 25 '19
After you go into singleplayer, do you just find a new online session?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 04 '19
Sorry I just saw this. Yes, you can rejoin one when you're ready after going to single player.
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u/ThatGuyFlameK Jul 01 '19
I get kicked no matter what I do. What mission do you use?? I tried Titan of a Job and go to my office to watch TV and I always get kicked. I also tried to rubber band my controller (what I do right now) and I guess it wont work in a job.
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jul 01 '19
Which system are you on?
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u/ThatGuyFlameK Jul 01 '19
Same as you. Xbox one. Im also in PCEO lol
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jul 01 '19
It shouldn't matter which TV you watch, but I use my MC clubhouse because it's near all my businesses so I can resupply easily after quitting the contact mission.
Did you make sure you idle settings or whatever it's called is turned off? It will be under your xbox settings.
Did you change the channel once before AFKing? Probably not important, but I used to do it to make sure I was at the right screen.
Did you take the battery out of the controller once you were ready to AFK? I would always get kicked if I didnt do this, although it doesnt seem to be an issue for most people. Dont turn the controller off in the menu. Remove the battery, then put it back in and leave the controller off.
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u/ThatGuyFlameK Jul 01 '19
Idle settings are good.
I made sure I was on the right thing. Sit down, watch TV, turn on.
I play with a wired controller.. Should I just unplug it?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jul 01 '19
I would guess that has the same effect
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u/ThatGuyFlameK Jul 01 '19
Alright I'll give it another go. What is your go to mission?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jul 01 '19
Defender. It's not a popular mission (although it was one of my favorites) and it has 2 players max so you dont see people waiting in the mission lobby already.
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u/ThatGuyFlameK Jul 01 '19
Alright. Since we are on the same platform I'll just try to replicate your scenario and go from there. Thank you man! Great guide by the way. Im not a novice to businesses, I just can't seem to stay in the job. .-.
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Jul 02 '19 edited Jun 30 '20
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u/Atrasaoo PS4 Jul 05 '19
After one minute you should be able to buy $15k of supplies to go AFK (its $15k for each bar)
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Jul 23 '19
You linked this guide in another thread so hope you don’t mind some questions. What is the purpose of the bunker? I’ve looked through the guide and don’t understand its purpose. Is it just another restockable business?
Edit: Rephrased
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jul 23 '19
The bunker collects passive product to sell like the MC businesses, but is quite a bit better than them.
THE MATH
Bunker - After 2.5 cycles per character, each sale will give you about 600K.
Coke - After 2.5 cycles per character, each sale will give you 420K.
Meth - After 2 cycles per character, each sale will give you 357K.
Cash - After 2 cycles per character, each sale will give you 294K.
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Jul 23 '19
Awesome. Just gotta grind for the bunker and nightclub to run this guide. Thanks for help!
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u/C1intFunWood Jul 24 '19
After I buy the supplies for my bunker it says that "Manufacturing will restart after it arrives," Does that matter?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jul 24 '19
Yes. You should have production active before you afk.
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u/C1intFunWood Jul 24 '19
But shouldn't I be inside a contact mission before the supplies arrive?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jul 24 '19
Yes. But you should have almost full supplies, production active, and another set of supplies on the way. If you have no supplies when you go afk theres nothing to make product with
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u/C1intFunWood Jul 24 '19
Yes, I have one tick down, then I bought the supplies. But it said that production will resume after the supplies arrive
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jul 24 '19
I think you should be ok
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u/C1intFunWood Jul 24 '19
It worked. Would this method also work, if I did heists instead of AFKing?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Jul 24 '19
Technically yes it will work, but the way the timing works out you'll probably just up losing product.
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u/Luxon31 Aug 04 '19
Are MC clubs supposed to have security cameras, cause mine doesn't.
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 04 '19 edited Aug 04 '19
You can buy them in your businesses, and you should have them in the MC clubhouse on the TV. You cant watch security cameras during a mission though, just watch tv on the couch
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 05 '19
Should I buy the security upgrade for my bunker?
It doesnt make a difference for profit, but fuck getting raided. I've actually never had my bunker raided, come to think of it. But it's not worth the risk IMO. Buy security upgrades. You'll be rich soon enough following this guide, so it's worth the investment.
Do hangar and facility earn money?
Facility doesnt do anything for the passive businesses. For the purposes of this guide, the facility is worthless (except as a fast travel point between sales if you buy the facility near your businesses).
As for the hangar, it will work as a piece of the nightclub. The Hangar and the CEO Crate Warehouse both fill the same role in the NC, so you only need one.
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 10 '19
They are warehouses you can buy, then have your office assistant source crates for you. You store them in a warehouse until you want to sell them.
They become a part of the passive nightclub operations if you own them both.
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u/ChrisSplashMaster Aug 19 '19
does having an mc business (or bunker for that matter) maxed out on upgrades let the nightclub acquire that good faster?
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u/IhaveSADandAutism Aug 21 '19
Wait so where does the camera thing come in? If I'm reading the comments correctly, you afk in a contact mission for 2.5 hours right?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 21 '19
Yes, I'm not watching security cameras as you cant do that during a mission. Watching TV works fine though.
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u/IhaveSADandAutism Aug 21 '19
Oh so it's either afk in contact OR afk in cameras?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 21 '19
Yes, but you'll definitely want to be in a mission watching tv.
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u/Ponchaiwa Aug 23 '19
Will bunker supply still get consumed even if I’m offline?
Will it consume faster if I’m afk online?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 24 '19
It will only be consumer while you are online on that character
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Aug 24 '19
Im a bit late, but do I need to get the businesses in that order, or is that a suggestion to get started if you don't have them already?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 24 '19
I would suggest doing them in that order since those give you the biggest profit margins. If you already have a business but it's not upgraded, upgrade everything before buying the next one.
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u/Zubz997 Sep 13 '19
Does the screen when afking have to be on the please reconnect the controller screen while watching tv
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u/glowingass Vote for Government DLC Aug 13 '19
So, if I play by myself, in solo public lobby, how much will I make per hour?
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u/_Tonan_ Epsilon Flight Program Aug 13 '19
With zero help it really depends on which sales you get.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '19
I manually resupply all my mc, i have everthing upgraded but when i finish i see the supplys are already taken(the merch grow) and i had to pay almost full price,