r/formuladank BWOAHHHHHHH 1d ago

Off-tro🅱️ical “Checo is a legend!”

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u/kingofthenorph BWOAHHHHHHH 1d ago

He had the best car on the grid for those 90 races. Having only 10 points per race is sad. There are only 6 drivers at Red Bull with over 28 races, and the other 4 didn’t have 100 percent of their races in a rocket ship. It’s a useless stat and when Apple to apples he won 5 to verstappens 53 and averages 10.3 points to 15.9. Even Riccardo had his 7 wins compared to verstappens 10.

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u/Ricky_Mouse_ mission spinnow 1d ago

Yea absolutely, but I think that in the last week we have understood with other stats how Checo was shit in the Red Bull

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u/kingofthenorph BWOAHHHHHHH 1d ago

Sorry that was not directed at your question about Sunday. I felt his numbers were higher than they should have been too. These numbers are skewed from the Red Bull car being so dominant in 22 and 23 where he was able to finish second even though he was a second behind max. This dude is claiming Perez is third best at Red Bull which is a joke. Third all time at Red Bull is insulting, even with it being a new team.

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u/TheOvercookedFlyer BWOAHHHHHHH 1d ago

It maybe an insult to you but stats don't lie: Checo is Red Bull's third best driver ever.

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u/kingofthenorph BWOAHHHHHHH 1d ago

Stats lie all the time. It’s how you use them. His car was faster compared to the grid than any other driver for Red Bull. Verstappen had 10 wins in 96 races in a different Red Bull. In Perez’s Red Bull he had 53 wins in 90 races. You can not compare his skill against Vettles, webbers and Riccardo based off his point per race. You can against verstappen at during the same period in the same car and he got absolutely hammered.

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u/TheOvercookedFlyer BWOAHHHHHHH 15h ago

His car was faster compared to the grid

How can you prove that?

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u/kingofthenorph BWOAHHHHHHH 14h ago edited 14h ago

You need proof that the Red Bull was faster than a Williams? If you’re actually serious there are lots of metrics you can use that aren’t drivers. Straight line speed, acceleration, braking, cornering speed, stability, race pace. Aerodynamics are the largest thing a team can change and they had Adrian Newey who is already a legend. They attracted the best in their fields. They pushed the rules and innovated everywhere. Even their pit crew was dominant. The Red Bull was so dominant they had the option to tune their cars to perform better in races because they had qualifying on lock down. There are a lot of good technical YouTube channels and F1 has some good shows.

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u/TheOvercookedFlyer BWOAHHHHHHH 14h ago

You wrote a lot without showing a tangible metric that Red Bull was faster than the whole grid. You mentioned Newey as a legend and yet they didn't won when Verstappen had Ricciardo as a team-mate.

Show me a metric, an aerodynamic result, an innovation (a legal one) that no one had on the grid that made their cars faster than the rest. No rush, I can wait.

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u/kingofthenorph BWOAHHHHHHH 13h ago edited 13h ago

Oh you are a blind Perez die hard.

https://www.skysports.com/amp/f1/news/12475/12876500/red-bulls-f1-2023-domination-ted-kravitz-explains-why-the-rb19-is-so-strong-after-another-1-2-in-miami

Give that a read, a lot of information. If you need more than that go to the f1 app and they have telemetry

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u/TheOvercookedFlyer BWOAHHHHHHH 13h ago

Sounds good. I'll wait.

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