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I may be misinterpreting the second article you included but based on the quotes, I think Pierre was able to get the smaller cockpit he requested.
"We're kind of going in the same direction, apart from very long arms that he has! I'm requesting a tighter cockpit for obvious gains and he's not so keen," Gasly said.
"I don't know how he drives [motions driving the car with his elbows out], but he needs slightly more space than me!
"We'll see how that goes, but I must say that's probably the only area where he'll favour comfort over maybe more bias towards performance.
"Except from that, I think it's very clear, similar direction and it's been quite straightforward to work with him.
"I think the team will always be keen on maximising the space that you have. I'm quite happy, I've got lots of room, but we've got one tall driver with long arms and long limbs.
"There are negotiations we are having at the moment, obviously it's going to go towards performance."
To me that sounds like Pierre was pointing out how that's the only difference between his and Esteban's requests and otherwise they are very aligned in the feedback they give (something they have both mentioned multiple times). That last quote in particular sounded like Pierre was very confident that he would get the smaller cockpit he requested. :)
Also to add to your point about Esteban's unusual proportions, I remember this article pointing out that Esteban's measurements have actually been carefully taken and used by the FIA "who have introduced changes to ensure that car dimensions in various categories" to ensure tall drivers can drive comfortably.
Yeah, this picture definitely shows Jack's broader build! Hopefully Jack and Pierre will be similarly aligned in car feedback (like Pierre and Esteban apparently were) and they'll find a car that suits both of them.
I looked at a few pictures comparing the two and honestly I agree with you! This was the only picture I could find where one of them wasn't standing much closer to the camera than the other or was significantly angled towards or away from the camera.
What I meant by my original comment is I thought the picture showed Jack's broad build but I see how that could be interpreted as me saying Jack has a broader build than Pierre - anyway yes I agree those two are of a similar breadth and both are more broad than Esteban.
And after some Googling it looks like the photo is actually from when they drove V8 Supercars at Calder Park in Melbourne! Skip to about 6 minutes for the footage of them driving. There are some Castrol challenges where Pierre and Esteban faced the RFK Racing team if you want to see them try NASCAR!
Williams rocking up to the paddock with their two 6-foot-2 monsters, stuffing Pierre in a locker, giving Checo a swirly and shit. Walking into their post-race interviews like
I always seen Nick being Listed at 167cm which is just under 5'6. His 5'7 claims is him adding himself an inch. Yuki is about 160cm which is 5'3. 7cm especially when two people are standing in relaxed pose is not rly as big of a difference. Yuki possibly has insoles to add himself some height you never know
During the weekend warmup for Spa, Ruth Buscombe actually briefly mentioned how it's helpful from a design perspective because of the similar centers of gravity!
Tagging u/Ubi-Fanch because while I can't confirm whether it was a factor in their decision-making process, the benefits Ruth was describing make me think it could at least be in the back of their mind.
(Also I believe the fact-checking was done and Esteban and Ollie are not the tallest ever driver lineup in F1 history - that honor goes to Justin Wilson and Mark Webber who were 193cm and 184 cm, respectively and briefly teammates at Jaguar in 2003.)
Kimi is 175cm which would make him 1cm taller than Lewis. That being said Lewis got measured at 171.5 cm by Mclaren one year which he replied that he apparently shrunk. Lewis is also a proven lift wearer.
Of course! I'm glad you thought it was interesting because I thought so too. It's not something I thought of before but Ruth's explanation makes so much and now I'm like "of course there's some advantage to having drivers of similar builds".
It makes me curious about some of the pairings with more disparate builds and whether those differences in size translate to differences in performance. Some people already pointed out Lewis/George and Pierre/Esteban but I'm also curious about Daniel/Yuki and Nico/Kevin for example. Also makes me curious about whether the most successful teammate pairs in F1 have more similar builds, haha!
Bearman info is from the F2 website. The listing was put up in 2023 for his rookie year in the series and was not changed for this year. Year prior in 2022 when he was in F3 he was listed at 177cm so the guy clearly grew. I reckon hes around 185cm now just shy off George.
These drivers adding themselves heights constantly. Why do they have the need to do that? Charles saying he is 180 even tho he has a centimeter or two at best on Vettel who is 175-6cm. Esteban got measured at Force India (186cm) when he was already in his 20s. Highly unlikely he grew. Then claimed 187cm in drivers guessing heights video couple of yrs ago and now says hes 188cm which is the first time im hearing that from him. What the hell... Bearman was listed at 184cm for 2023 F2 season, a listing that stayed for 2024. Currently listed at 185 by google I just checked. Altho he said he was 186cm this year when he was asked on social media but I remember in Jeddah when him and George got out of their cars after the race they filmed them walking together and George clearly edged him out and George claims he is 186cm (even tho hes listed at 185cm). Nyck de Vries was also claiming 170cm even tho he is clearly shorter than Fernando and is listed at 167cm on numerous sites... These guys rly are competitive about everything
Anyone know what the maximum height of a driver could be in the current era cars? I don’t mean the max height that a team would hire, as I know taller means heavier which means slower. I’m just curious if I would even be physically able to take an F1 car around a track at say 20% speed. I’m not fat, just tall
Bearman will likely end up at 6'2 (188/189cm) or even 6'3 if he gets lucky. I was an early bloomer started puberty at 12 to be exact. I gained an inch after 18. Was 6'0.5 (184cm) as a highschool senior now im just shy of 6'2 at 187cm in my early 20s. I thought I was done by 18 considering the fact I reached 6 foot already as a 16 yr old and only grew half an inch in those two years. If I did it Ollie can to considering he is deffo a late bloomer. The guy probably still has some height left in him. Wasn't he barely 5'10 2 or 3 yrs ago? Mental when you think about it...
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