r/facepalm 'MURICA Aug 28 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ i'm speechless

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u/Madrugada2010 Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24

I lived in South Korea for two years, and here's the rule of tipping - there isn't any.

Leaving a tip is an insult because it means your boss doesn't pay you enough. It's "face loss" to both the employer and the staff.

I like that way better.

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u/Glittering_Bid1112 Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24

Ohhh, interesting!

I really like that!

Africa is quite the opposite when going on holiday. Especially Safari agencies/lodges provide the guests with a note about how much every guide, driver, lodge, etc should be tipped. And it ain't small money! We're talking 20$ per couple per night spent at a lodge. 15$ per couple per day to driver/guide...

So basically, the company/lodge owners rely on the tourists to pay the employees' salaries in tips.

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u/Madrugada2010 Aug 28 '24

Yup, that's the way things are where I live now - Mexico.

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u/thrownjunk Aug 28 '24

how you know you are in a country with no workers rights - tips are a big source of income.

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u/frozenuniverse Aug 28 '24

This is because of a history of primarily Americans going to these countries and normalising tipping culture. Especially because what seems like a small amount to someone from the US can be significant to local people. Distorted the economy around tourism.

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u/Glittering_Bid1112 Aug 28 '24

Exactly!

If I remember well, we tipped our safari driver/guide 300€ for 8 days. (We were 2 people) Hotel staff told us that they earn about 150€ a month.

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u/NjxNaDxb Aug 28 '24

Yup, went to a lodge in Kenya and it was suggested 20/25 dollars per night per general staff and 10/15 dollars per guide.

Mind the cheaper room in the place was going for over 400 dollars at night so they really didn't have financial issues.

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u/Glittering_Bid1112 Aug 28 '24

It really, really bothers me and I find it so rude!

I am inclined to just tip whatever I feel comfortable but I guess then it wouldn't be fair towards the staff that depends on our tips. I mean, I would never ever tip these sums anywhere else.

Last time we went on a safari, we spent 1500$ on tips alone. That's insane