r/facepalm 'MURICA Aug 28 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ i'm speechless

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u/CouchAlchemist Aug 28 '24

Ignoring the whole it is up to businesses to pay the workers, considering tipping is part of service staff wage, i would say you have to respect local conditions and tip if it is required. I am from Europe but I wouldn't go to USA , get injured and then show a Pikachu face when they bill me.

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u/Brox42 Aug 28 '24

Yeah the comments in this thread are a little out of touch here. Yes thanks for repeating the same points about how tipping sucks and living wage blah blah. Yeah we get it, it’s been said a thousand times. We all agree with you but since that’s not the case and until it’s fixed tipping is how it is. The server made like 2 bucks an hour to wait on this table.

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u/royalhawk345 Aug 28 '24

Every thread on reddit that mentions tipping immediately devolves into the exact same circle jerk. I don't like it either, but at least I'm not a sanctimonious prick who thinks stiffing a waiter is morally justified because I'm fighting some quixotic personal crusade against the restaurant industry.

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u/CouchAlchemist Aug 28 '24

Bunch of folks think by not tipping they have kick-started a revolution and the owner is going to start paying them a living wage. In reality the service worker just takes less money home and their struggle just continues.

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u/MyPeggyTzu Aug 28 '24

And would likely vote against ending tipping due to the way it would impact their industry.tbey got screwed on this table, but likely make it up over the long run in ways they would prefer not to change. Expecting attitudes to change while maintaining the behavior that reinforces those attitudes is insanity. If you truly want to end tipping, we have to stop doing it, which will cause servers to quit and find better paying employment or be paid more by the restaurant to maintain them. The government is not interested in solving this via legislation, and there is no pressure from anyone besides the customers to end the practice. If there is going to be action to end tipping, it will unfortunately look a lot like this.

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u/Single_University738 Aug 28 '24

This is the most sane reply on this thread. Yes tipping sucks, but by not tipping you dont make the owner pay them a wage, instead you made the servers situation worse.

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u/ActuatorForeign7465 Aug 28 '24

You can‘t expect every tourist to be familiar with all the day-to-day conditions of American life.

You go to another country to learn about another culture, you are not expected to study five years before your trip.

Yes, specific things like tipping culture are known by many people everyone online, but especially people who aren‘t chronically online don‘t know this.

I‘m not aware of a single other country that makes it okay that the guests have to help pay the waiter‘s salary just so the boss can safe money. That‘s literally charity

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u/Single_University738 Aug 28 '24

This is basic stuff you research before you go to any country, you should be at least a little bit familiar with their norms. If I was going to any country, I would familiarize myself with stuff that can seem disrespectful to someone in another country I may not find disrespectful in my country. You dont need to study five years before a trip, this stuff can take 15 min tops. Yes tipping culture really does suck, but nothing will change if the business owners know they can get away with it and save money on paying their staff. By not tipping, you just made the server take home less pay. Are you really better than the business owner in that case?

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '24

True and if it was a mistake it’d be different, but they told her we’re European and we don’t tip. They know it’s expected to tip.