r/facepalm 'MURICA Aug 28 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ i'm speechless

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u/Salcha_00 Aug 28 '24

Yes. Normal.

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u/vrcvc Aug 28 '24

i don't understand, are people not paid by their bosses so they need tip or what?

in eu we are normaly paid and we don't get tips, like i have my salary why do i need to get angry over not getting bonus money...

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u/PlausibleTable Aug 28 '24

They’re paid, but at a lower wage. In some instances they do not even make minimum wage without the tip. Meaning they can be paid as low as $2.13 an hour by the employer and the rest of their compensation is based on tip.

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u/YolopezATL Aug 28 '24

I worked in restaurant tech for years and the language we used to describe states that enforced higher wage standards for tipped employees was wild.

“Can you believe it? States like California are wanting restaurant owners to pay federal minimum wages along with letting their employees make tips!”

Place was awful.

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u/Equivalent_Law_6311 Aug 28 '24

Minnesota also pays minimum wage plus tips, been that way for quite some time.

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u/Propane4days Aug 28 '24

This is a great idea!!!

We should get the person in charge this 'Minnesota' to the top! Maybe not the top top, but waaaay up there!!!

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u/MegaLowDawn123 Aug 28 '24

CA is the same way. Same for grub hub and Uber eats and such, they get minimum wage and healthcare covered by the company, so every time you order there’s a small $2 fee or so. You don’t have to tip but anything you do add goes directly to the worker too.

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u/yottabit42 Aug 28 '24

Those stupid fees! That should be built into the prices. It's ridiculous.

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u/MegaLowDawn123 Aug 28 '24

Meh they even say ‘this $2.16 fee ensures hourly pay and health benefits for our drivers’ right there in plain English. It’s pretty up front before you click and pay, you can always decide not to put the order through…

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u/yottabit42 Aug 28 '24

It's typically political theatre. If it's part of their business, include it in the prices! Maybe years ago when the shipping companies started doing this same BS for "fuel surcharge" I said the same thing... That's part of your business and should be included in the price. Without those extra fees included is very difficult to compare prices against competitors. That's the other reason they do it. They're only capitalists when they don't have to compete fairly.

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u/LocalSlob Aug 28 '24

Whats the cost of food like? I know some restaurant owners are having a tough time not increasing the price of food on the menu but their costs are increasing.

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u/Equivalent_Law_6311 Aug 28 '24

I left the US in 2018 so no idea at this time.

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u/AsceticEnigma Aug 28 '24

Yea I’m not trying to diminish anyone’s strifes, but this seems to be entirely regional. In my state it’s not that uncommon to be making a few dollars above minimum plus tips. The tips were incentive to provide better service not to serve as the basis for getting paid. It was fairly common to not get tipped and there was never an expectation that you would. Again this is just my experience, I realize I’m not in the majority.

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u/Salcha_00 Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24

And the federal minimum wage is only $7.25/hour in most states, which is not a livable wage.

Edit - most states have actually implemented a slightly higher minimum wage ($10-15 /hour) but not really a living wage yet.

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u/YolopezATL Aug 28 '24

Exactly! I make good money but my mom struggled for a long time despite working hard, sometimes at 2 or even 3 jobs.

She was so grateful that a friend of hers at a department store who went to college reached back out to my mom after landing an Administrative Assistant job and convinced them to hire my mom, even without a college degree and only experience in restaurants and retail.

Changed our life. But there are millions of people who could have done her job but were stuck in classifications as “unskilled workers” and making minimum wage.

I cannot remember the stat, but like 80% of jobs can be taught. But everybody deserves to make a living wage because a lot of circumstances in life are based on luck or things you don’t control.

Family you are born into. Where you were born. Your parent’s career trajectory and social network. Etc.

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u/adderal Aug 29 '24

Thanks for sharing!

It should not be understated how valuable your network/past colleagues can be in attaining, retaining, and finding gainful employment opps.

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u/WayGroundbreaking787 Aug 28 '24

The federal minimum wage last went up in 2009 when I graduated high school.

I’m now 33.

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u/mapleleaf1984 Aug 28 '24

Yes, that is also the states problem, it needs to be raised substantially.

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u/mozfustril Aug 28 '24

But in California isn’t the minimum wage up to $20/hr? So there’s no more tipping?

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u/YolopezATL Aug 28 '24

Yes, fast food workers in California are making $20 an hour. If a worker works 40 hours a week for 52 weeks a year, no time off for vacations or get sick, they will make 42k a year before taxes.

That is $800 a week.

After taxes, that is maybe $500 a week.

Other countries pay a livable wage for restaurants workers and their prices are on par with ours or sometimes lower.

If they can do it, why can’t America, which is the best country on Earth, do it?

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u/ElectroAtleticoJr Aug 28 '24

If the restaurant pays wait staff minimum, I don’t tip

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u/YolopezATL Aug 28 '24

I’m curious. Why not and is that a straight policy across all restaurants or do you have different policies for different types of restaurants?

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u/postmoderngeisha Aug 28 '24

Yeah, how the hell would he know that, outside of. California or Minnesota?

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u/payscottg Aug 28 '24

Is that something you call ahead and ask the restaurant about or do you wait until you get there?