r/facepalm 'MURICA Aug 28 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ i'm speechless

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u/thdung002 Aug 28 '24

Holly sh!!! Suggest tips start from 20%? really?

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u/DemIce Aug 28 '24

Slowly but surely the industry is trying to make 25% the norm. If you look at this receipt, psychologically you'll already don't want to be the person who tips the 'minimum' amount, and would prefer the middle option.

Yes, you can still do a 15% tip. You can even do a 10% tip, but expect to be the subject of another "I'm speechless" post for being a bad tipper. If anyone thinks they only complain about people who don't tip, or who leave a nasty comment, or leave a "Jesus loves you" note, feel free to look around in some of the server subreddits to see that someone who tips 'low' is a 'bad tipper' and subject to much the same scorn.

20% is still the norm, but only for now, and everything from POS set up with default tipping values that are up (18/20/25 is common), to bills with suggested amounts like these, to server conversations, is set up to push this upward.

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u/At0micPizza Aug 28 '24

Here in Germany I've noticed restaurants suggesting tip in similar ranges (10 to 15%) even though employees are being paid okay-ish. It started out as leaving some coins for the server after a full family dinner and now card machines have default 10-15% you have to unselect when at a takeaway with self-service... wtf?!

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u/DemIce Aug 28 '24

Those card machines are run by, or heavily influenced by, American companies.

I'm not big on conspiracy theories, but it's absolutely by design that these systems include a tip screen that is on by default. Even if it's a low amount, it's essentially free money for the business as long as it doesn't end up driving customers away. It's also free money for the POS company. For example, Square:

Payment processing fees are taken out of the total amount of each transaction, including tax and tip.
( https://squareup.com/help/us/en/article/5068-what-are-square-s-fees )

Once a business gets used to getting tips and seeing their profits go up, they have zero incentive to remove it. Quite the opposite, now they have an incentive to see if that 10% to 15% could be increased a little.

There's a logical conclusion to this behavior, and it's fascinating to see it play out within my lifetime.

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u/At0micPizza Aug 28 '24

Thx for explaining :) What will happen do you think?

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u/hodgepodgeaustralia Aug 29 '24

Right? That was my first thought - I remember when I used to visit the states the tip guide was 18%, 20% and 22%, now they're starting at 20%??