The funny thing about the States Rights argument is that the Confederacy considered itself to be its own nation and not states in rebellion and made their own constitution. Surprise! States had fewer rights granted to them by the Confederate government than the one they'd just left.
The first thing they did was copy-paste the US constitution, add more protections for slavery, and prohibit secession from the confederacy. It's almost as if they wanted all of posterity to know without doubt that it was all about slavery. Because they did, and it was, and they had no shame.
The leopards are always around, and somebody always thinks (THIS TIME, for sure!) they will be the ones to safely sick the leopards on their enemies.
And then the leopards do what they always do- eat faces indiscriminately. The best we can hope for is to see the look of awareness when they realize “oh no, I too have a face…”
you're kinda missing the point, they didn't mind a central government. They wanted a different (more slaveryfriendly) central government. so no, they did not mind having less stat rights.
At the time, Democrats were the conservatives. In 1964, with the Civil rights act, they began switching ideologies and by the 1980s they had fully switched and there came a hard north/south divide between the parties.
So what are you saying with your comment here? That you don't know history? Or you are insinuating your party isn't racist now because the other one was racist 160 years ago?
1964 was closer to the end of the transformation of the Democrats into being the solidly liberal party than the beginning. The Democratic Party had slowly been adopting more liberal positions (especially economic policies) since the early 1900’s. FDR’s presidency was a huge transformation for the Democratic Party. In 1932 FDR actually got around 71% of the black vote, so the shift started earlier and on a longer timeframe
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know the realignment started that early, as I was under the impression it was solidly tied to the civil rights platform initiated by Truman and finally the civil rights act by Johnson. Upon further reading it started with the onset of the great depression. My bad!
Yes, at the time, the Democrats were a party polluted, if not nearly entirely overtaken, by hatred, irrational fear, and bigotry. I hope that statement you made was just as a fun tidbit, and not something shoehorned in bad faith to make some sort of jab at Democrats.
It is also important to note that some time after the Civil War, the two parties essentially swapped in their ideologies- the Democrats becoming Liberal, and the Republicans becoming Conservative.
I know it’s difficult for you but try to think about why all the southern states are republican strongholds now. I’m sure you aren’t this stupid because nobody is buying your semantics. Pick up a book and learn something about American history.
In a nationally televised address on June 6, 1963, President John F. Kennedy urged the nation to take action toward guaranteeing equal treatment of every American regardless of race. Soon after, Kennedy proposed that Congress consider civil rights legislation that would address voting rights, public accommodations, school desegregation, nondiscrimination in federally assisted programs, and more.
So the southern republicans with all those confederate flags that claim it as their heritage are just defending the ideological opposition? They arent spouting the same values as the democrats of civil war ere? Its the same values in the same place.
So I teach this and I love when my middle school students can pick out the hypocrisy in that. States rights is born out of the nullification crisis and states like SC saying if they don’t like a law they can say the hell with it. But then the south went and cried over how the north refused to listen to the heightened fugitive slave act. Always have a kid that will be like didn’t they say that was okay to do?
Yep, which is why I hate when people use the "to do what" gotcha because it's just flat out wrong. The South wasn't fighting for states rights at all. They were explicitly fighting against states rights. So the correct gotcha when someone brings up "it was about states rights" isn't "to do what" but instead pointing out "yeah, the South was fighting against states rights".
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u/Rakkuken Jul 11 '24
The funny thing about the States Rights argument is that the Confederacy considered itself to be its own nation and not states in rebellion and made their own constitution. Surprise! States had fewer rights granted to them by the Confederate government than the one they'd just left.