r/cyberpunkgame Splash of Love 11d ago

Meta Well that didn't take long at all...

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u/GodwynDi 11d ago

No, he wasn't. Actually check the law instead of parroting the biased media.

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u/rxellipse 11d ago

Here's the indictment:

https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf

Verdict sheet listing 34 guilty verdicts:

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/Trump-Verdict-Sheet.pdf

New York State Penal Code:

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/175.10

The relevant bit, emphasis mine:

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.

Facts seem to support that Trump is a 34x felon. I know you aren't arguing in good faith, and I think it's sad that you have committed to debasing yourself in this way. You know the truth and you should feel at least a small amount of shame for what you tried to do here.

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u/GodwynDi 10d ago

None of those is a conviction.

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u/rxellipse 10d ago

No, you're wrong about that. New York State defines what constitutes a conviction:

https://ww2.nycourts.gov/COURTS/nyc/criminal/glossary.shtml#Conviction

Conviction - When the court enters a plea of guilty or a finding of guilt by a jury or the Court.

Your argument also flies in the face of common understanding of what a conviction is:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conviction

conviction
noun
con·​vic·​tion kən-ˈvik-shən
Synonyms of conviction

1: the act or process of finding a person guilty of a crime especially in a court of law

You're wrong here, your prior arguments are worthless and you have offered nothing in support of them, you're a proven liar, and anything you say in response can be duly ignored as a result.

It's not entirely your fault - you're merely parroting what someone else told you is true - your fault merely lies with your inability to discern truth from fiction. That you can be so easily misled and manipulated by others is something of which you should be ashamed (and should strive to rectify), but I suspect you don't possess the capacity for the introspection necessary to do so.