r/collapze DOOMER Apr 11 '23

Government Bad Humanity is lost

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Apr 11 '23

I'm gibbering about social murder and structural violence. Legalizing sleeping under bridges is not a victory.

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u/theCaitiff Apr 11 '23

You're right, people shouldn't be sleeping under bridges, 100% agree. We SHOULD have better options to help the homeless that focus on housing first with no preconditions.

Even if we DID have that, this law would still be an assault on society for the way it criminalizes existing in public.

It's not half assed liberal bullshit to say that we shouldn't make people's lives worse. Fighting this law and hopefully defeating it won't be a victory because we want people to sleep under bridges, it will be a victory because the law was an assault on everyone even if we know it was only ever going to be selectively applied to attack the poor and/or enemies of the state.

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Apr 11 '23

Stop settling. This is how we lose everything, one compromise at a time.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '23

Actually that is the opposite of how things work.

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Apr 12 '23

I wish you were correct, but no. I mean, that's how the right-wing wins, if that's what you mean.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '23

Tell me, out of all the countries that have had awesome totally radical revolutions with no compromise, how many have suffered genocidal consequences?

And of all the countries that have "settled" for some kind of democratic reform process, how many have not?

Not to say shit isn't fucked up, cos it is. And it is indeed a fine line to walk between unicornism and selling out.

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Apr 12 '23

We're in /r/collapze. The liberal system has failed, it has only protected capitalism. It's over, all trashcan ideology needs to be junked.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '23

So what makes you so great? You're the one who says we shouldn't do anything, even when the government makes it illegal to sleep!

At least liberals get off their ass and do shit. Unicornists like you just sit on your butts and tell us we shouldn't do anything because nothing we ever do can be radical enough. Then they throw some soup at a painting or some bullshit.

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Apr 14 '23

This isn't about me.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '23

Yeah it's about all those damn liberals with their stupid liberal reformism who never ever made any progress happen in history at all ever, unlike you, who are going to save the whole entire world and everyone on it when The Revolution™ comes!

Not like those stupid welfareists who think we should actually do something about the real shit that's going down! Hah! Suckers! They should get a load of your awesome revolutionary ideology, that says a person should never do anything unless it causes the perfect storm of total and utter societal change, all at once! Because anything else is mealy-mouthed reformism! Ugh!

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Apr 14 '23

Do something, just don't imagine that it's the a successful goal achieved.

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