r/boxoffice • u/AsunaYuuki837373 Studio Ghibli • Oct 06 '24
South Korea South Korea Weekend update: Joker 2 is collapse mode
Veterans 2: Holds really well with a 46% drop from last weekend and it crossed 7 million admits on Sunday! Will hit that 50 million dollar mark on Monday!
Jokers 2: I really overestimate the weekend as it managed to have a pretty horrible Sunday where Sunday was lower than Friday.
Wild Robot: Didn't have a huge jump on Saturday as I was hoping but that Sunday jump was so good that it beat out Joker 2 on Sunday. Overall the movie should develop good legs and leg out to a pretty decent total.
Transformers One: Continues to hate everything as it dropped 70% from last weekend as it seemed pretty much dead in the water.
Extra personal note Heylo! I'm wanting to apologize in advance for those of you who enjoy these post but with Milton looking like a direct hit on my hometown, my SK update will become really sparse if it does indeed hit and cause significant damage. For those of you facing the same situation, please remember to stay safe and pay attention to your local officials.
http://www.koreanfilm.or.kr/eng/news/boxOffice_Weekly.jsp?mode=BOXOFFICE_WEEKLY
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
I would like to provide ANOTHER sick burn. Deadpool & Wolverine has 2 HUGE names as leading roles, all sorts of cameos, plenty of action scenes, no shortage of CGI, physical sets, props, and so on, and endless 3D frame breaks - and its budget is ONLY $10 million higher than the budget of Joker: Folie a Deux.
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u/AsunaYuuki837373 Studio Ghibli Oct 07 '24
I know we talk a lot about blown up budgets but I think Joker 2 is a prime example of a budget that is too big for no reason
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u/AGOTFAN New Line Oct 07 '24
$190-$200 million to make a court room and prison drama is really outrageous.
Was music licensing really expensive?
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u/TokyoPanic Oct 07 '24
Even the aforementioned Deadpool & Wolverine has a lot of licensed music too.
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
Which makes this film's budget management even more inexcusable.
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u/LadyCrownGuard Oct 07 '24
Also can’t they make their own music? That Agatha show just put out a hit song composed by an award winning duo and its budget is less than 40M lmao.
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
its budget is less than 40M lmao.
Wait, where did you hear that?
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u/LadyCrownGuard Oct 07 '24
Hollywood Reporter said that Agatha was their least expensive MCU show to date, the 2nd least expensive was Echo with a budget of 40M.
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
In that case, how about $36 million given that it has about 9 episodes?
P.S. I think Ironheart will be pretty expensive since it's probably a lot more CGI-heavy.
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u/AsunaYuuki837373 Studio Ghibli Oct 07 '24
Would have been cheaper to create original music and would have been better received
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
Seriously, I hope Matt Reeves makes a PROPER musical about Joker and Harley Quinn wreaking havoc across Gotham to show Todd Phillips how it's done - and make it rated R while we're at it.
Also, can we have a Paul King-directed musical adventure film that also serves as an epilogue film of The Multiverse Saga as Carol Danvers, Prince Yan, and potentially their children go on a whole new adventure as they try to stop a very, Very, VERY silly supervillain?
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u/Purple_Quail_4193 Pixar Oct 07 '24
That’s an episode of Batman: The Brave and the Beyond with The Music Meister
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
Yeah, I suggested Reeves only because I wanted a bleak musical from DC and a silly musical from Marvel. 😅😅😅😅😅
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u/Purple_Quail_4193 Pixar Oct 07 '24
We kind of had one in The Marvels and you know what: I was kind of there for it. I didn’t think it was that bad…
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
Which is exactly why I want Marvel to bring in Paul King and let him cook.
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
And that's what really, Really, REALLY gets me about this film's budget since there is one film that is ONLY $60 million more expensive despite having a huge cast that was probably pretty expensive, a cruise ship-load of CGI, countless make-ups and prosthetics, pretty complex set designs, and all sorts of song licensings - and that film is, you guessed it, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3.
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
I cannot believe that I'm about to say this, but... Netflix films have better excuses on why they have ridiculously high budgets.
Congratulations, Todd Phillips. You did it. You made a big-budget film with the worst budget management. I hope you're proud of yourself.
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
Yeah, my defense for massive budgets can only go so far. By the sound of it, this film provides no single excuse on why it needed such a huge budget.
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u/AsunaYuuki837373 Studio Ghibli Oct 07 '24
My best guess is salary but Joaquin really shouldn't be getting a salary that big anyways
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
His salary was apparently something like $20 million with Phillips also getting $20 million and Gaga getting $12 million - but that still leaves a huge chunk of budget behind, so I have no idea where rest of the budget went!
Seriously, say what you will about Transformers: Rise of the Beasts, but it's pretty easy to tell WHY that film needed $200 million budget!
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u/Holiday_Parsnip_9841 Oct 07 '24
It apparently only shot for about 4 months, so it's not even like they shot a ridiculously long time.
All I can think of is they spent like nuts on production design and filled it with invisible CG.
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
The thing is, I kind of doubt that even invisible CGI would cause the budget to go up THAT much.
You know, this is the first time when just about everyone, including myself, agrees that a film's budget management sucks balls - aside from one guy who came up wit this excuse:
How is that a good comparison when that movie bombed? Joker 2’s budget is fine because it’s a sequel to a $1b grossing movie.
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u/Holiday_Parsnip_9841 Oct 07 '24
It's got tons of shots that look pedestrian, but have to be fully CG or heavily augmented. Like most of the exteriors.
Also, it's a movie full of set builds and heavily dressed locations, all production designed to extremely high levels of detail. Feels like you could shoot 360 on most of them and never see a seam in the design. That's expensive as hell, even if the scenes shot in them are mostly conversation.
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
Yeah, but that's still not a good excuse considering that Oppenheimer exists - along with a lot of other films.
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u/Holiday_Parsnip_9841 Oct 07 '24
Nolan knew Oppenheimer had to be brought in at a budget to make commercial sense. He also knew the editing was going to be really fast, so they shot the movie at a ridiculously fast schedule and just accepted it was going to be full of missed focus and other things that come with a fast pace. It gives the movie a lot of life.
Meanwhile, it appears Phillips wanted a meticulously crafted movie with zero regard for who the audience was and whether the budget made sense.
Kubrick crafted his movies to a similar level of polish, but made the economics work by using very small crews.
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u/AsunaYuuki837373 Studio Ghibli Oct 07 '24
52 million is pretty crazy. I do think they could have gotten a cheaper Harley especially since they didn't utilize any of Gaga talent. Probably could have replaced Phillips and did better too lol
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
Exactly. Let me bring back Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 as an example. Just look at that thing. You can EASILY tell why something like that would need $250 million budget thanks to cast salary, cruise ship-load of CGI, countless prosthetics, all sorts of set designs, and several song licensings. This film has only two of those - and its budget is only $60 million lower - and by the sound of it, those musical numbers apparently didn't look all that expensive either.
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u/DeisTheAlcano Oct 07 '24
I rewatched the movie and I was surprised to see just how much CGI is in it. Like, essentially Deadpool 1's climax like five times over in quick succession.
Someone was doing some shady hollywood accounting for Joker 2 to even come close to that number. It's insane even with the reported massive paychecks for the leads and director.
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
I rewatched the movie and I was surprised to see just how much CGI is in it. Like, essentially Deadpool 1's climax like five times over in quick succession.
To be fair, Deadpool 2 already had far, Far, FAR more special effects involved than the first film, so that was already given.
Someone was doing some shady hollywood accounting for Joker 2 to even come close to that number. It's insane even with the reported massive paychecks for the leads and director.
Oh, and speaking of which, Deadpool & Wolverine also has a lot of song licenses and yet, it still has a budget that is only $10 million higher.
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u/AGOTFAN New Line Oct 07 '24
Deadpool 1 had $58 million budget.
In fact, the budget was so tight at the end forcing them to be creative, such as Wade forgetting his bagful of guns before the final battle so they didn't have to CGI a lot
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24 edited Oct 07 '24
Fortunately, the film became a huge hit, allowing Deadpool 2 to go all out with action scenes and special effects.
And speaking of which, u/joesen_one, would you like to discuss the budget of this film, Deadpool & Wolverine, and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3? They all share two similarities - pretty expensive casts and song licensings.
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u/FallenShadeslayer Oct 07 '24
I’m gonna need someone to explain “Butt Detective” to me.
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u/keystone_back72 Oct 07 '24
It’s a cartoon from Japan for children. It’s about a detective with a butt for a face that solves crimes.
It’s very Japanese-style outlandish and actually very entertaining.
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u/Block-Busted Oct 07 '24
It sounds like an anime series or something.
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u/AsunaYuuki837373 Studio Ghibli Oct 07 '24
It is an anime series. This is the second year in a row everyone has asked the question lol
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u/IRefuseThisNonsense Oct 07 '24
There used to be an Adult Swim show called Assy McGee and that's all I'm picturing.
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u/Purple_Quail_4193 Pixar Oct 07 '24
Ok what is Butt Detective and is it anything close to what my imagination thinks it is?
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u/AsunaYuuki837373 Studio Ghibli Oct 07 '24
Well imagine Sherlock Holmes but with a butt face lol
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u/Purple_Quail_4193 Pixar Oct 07 '24
Well I wasn’t close… I’m pervertedly here for it though
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u/AsunaYuuki837373 Studio Ghibli Oct 07 '24
Believe it or not but it is supposedly a very serious cartoon for kids where they learn about collecting evidence and piecing together evidence
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u/Purple_Quail_4193 Pixar Oct 07 '24
This just gets weirder and weirder for me
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u/AsunaYuuki837373 Studio Ghibli Oct 07 '24
Give it a watch lol. I'm going to have to watch it now so I can answer questions when the next movie inevitably comes out
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u/keystone_back72 Oct 07 '24
It’s not at all serious (he generally solves crimes by face farting on the criminal du jour), but quite entertaining considering it’s for kids.
It has a similar humor style with Crayon Shinchan (which is also a Japanese cartoon that’s popular in Korea).
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u/Once-bit-1995 Oct 07 '24
A fellow Florida native I see. Good luck with the storm, I'm bracing myself. Stay safe!
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u/Purple_Quail_4193 Pixar Oct 07 '24
As a nomad who lives around the country in any place for a period of time and was just in Tampa for Helene stay safe you two! Im going to be reaching out to family soon as I already did the one I rode out Helene with. My family in North Carolina though is feeling the aftermath of Helene by everyone texting if she’s ok but forgetting they’re on the other site of the state
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u/BOfficeStats Best of 2023 Winner Oct 07 '24
Am I crazy or is this a 150k FSS opening weekend for South Korea???
This is unbelievably atrocious.
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u/Hole_of_joel Sony Pictures Classics Oct 07 '24
Honestly the most surprising thing here is that Begin Again (2013) has made 21 mil in SK?? I didn’t know anyone cared about that movie wtf
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u/VVantaBuddy Pixar Oct 07 '24
I swear the whole Asia continent rejects it not only Korea. MAGNIFICENT!