r/boringdystopia • u/isawasin • 20h ago
Social Inequality š Finally, a voice of reason!
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u/magicwombat5 19h ago
Definitely had me in the first bit.
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u/ASongOfSpiceAndLiars 18h ago
"Not gonna lie, they had us in the first half."
I'm probably misquoted the meme a bit, but close enough.
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u/Berry_Jam 19h ago
UnAliving - word of the year right there!
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u/spacemonstera 19h ago
"Shmurder" shmurdered me
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u/BlueberryBubblyBuzz š 0m ago
I love the stuff they come up with to avoid the filters on tiktok.
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u/Tyrant-Star 19h ago
I hate how ad revenue or lack thereof is dictating the evolution of language. I hear people say unalive in everyday life now and it makes me cringe everytime.
Thats the real r/boringdystopia
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u/I_madeusay_underwear 19h ago
Thatās how itās always been. Language is always changing and evolving for tons of reasons, often due to monetary issues. One of the primary factors in the transformation of spoken dialects has always been trade. Whether itās because people were interacting with speakers of another language more often, because a non-native language was preferred by the ruling class, or because commerce allowed for greater mobility by the lower classes, itās always been a driving force. Donāt be sad about it, itās one of the few things we get to see evolve in our lifetimes, itās amazing!
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u/karoshikun 19h ago
the economy has always determined culture and politics and not the other way around
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u/Tyrant-Star 19h ago
Can you give me more examples of how the economy has influenced language through history?
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u/I_madeusay_underwear 18h ago edited 18h ago
The Silk Road allowed for the introduction of Chinese words into Central Asia. The most common Roman coin was called a denarius, which is the root word for words like denaro (Italian), dinheiro (Portuguese), denar (Slovene), and dinero (Spanish) -all meaning money. Also, when you buy nails, youāll notice theyāre referred to by the penny. So, a 16d nail is 3 inches long and called a 16 penny nail. The d in the name comes from the denarius, as it was basically a silver penny. Language is changed whenever people who speak different languages come into recurring contact, which happens most often for trade. Plus, new, industry specific and technical words are created all the time and added to the lexicon.
Thereās a great book that talks about this in a fun, engaging way. Iām going to preface this by saying that I love this man as a linguist and an author of books about linguistics, but I do not espouse his personal or political beliefs or writings because on that front heās a lunatic. Anyway, itās called, āNine Nasty Words: English in the gutter: then, now, and foreverā by John McWhorter. Listen to the audio book, he reads it and he really is charming in that context.
Edit: I forgot to finish my point about the denarius. All those are romantic languages, right? So it makes sense that the word would be passed down to them in some form. But the denar is a currency denomination in north Macedonia and Algeria, Bahrain, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Libya, Serbia, and Tunisia all use Dinar as their monetary unit. So it influenced a great many languages outside of the Latin based language world
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u/Chase_the_tank 16h ago
As far as word researchers can tell, the animal "bear" is called that in English because of an ancient taboo on, arkto, the previous name of the animal.
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u/Kehwanna 3h ago
I remember in the mid 2010s when a lot of people started deleting their Facebook accounts because employers were being nosey as hell and some people were even getting fired for normal stuff like that one girl that posted a picture of herself in a bikini or the other girl that got fired from NASA for excitedly exclaiming "I fucking work for NASA!". So much crap is trying tk get involved in our daily lives on a micro-level and it's just annoying.Ā
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u/Kehwanna 3h ago
I hate censorship so much, especially YouTube's.Ā Ā
It drives me up a wall listening to an age restricted video censor cusswords and regular words, then see YT auto-delete normal comments for no reason other than their censoring algorithm being horrible.Ā
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u/tykaboom 19h ago
I dont want to use social media that cencors the words suicide, murder, kill, shoot, 3d print, and gun.
Oh, and let people be racist. If they choose to be... the normal people out there will know who to avoid better.
Censorship has never been and will never be the solution.
Censorship creates echo chambers and deludes people into thinking that they are always right.
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u/WimmoX 16h ago
What do you mean?? No more āGet the beep out of my beep, beep beeeeeeeep!!!ā And expose all the children?!?! You beeep!!!
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u/tykaboom 15h ago
Why are children on social media?
They dont need it.
Besides... by 13 they have heard it all in passing and from pop culture.
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u/SexyJesus21 16h ago
I generally agree but my problem with this is that some guy going on racist / disinformative rants shouldnāt really have a platform to do so. Think Alex Jones. People using words like suicide and murder in an informative way that explains a situation should definitely not be censored, but someone going online and telling people to commit suicide or murder should most definitely be censored.
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u/impactedturd 16h ago
The algorithms for social media creates echo chambers; serving you content that you already biased towards. And an open internet brings all these weirdos together to amplify and reinforce each other's messages.
As bad and annoying as moderators can be here on reddit, this entire place would be a giant cesspool of garbage if it weren't for them censoring and removing irrelevant posts.
Censorship isn't all good and it isn't all bad. And it doesn't help to think of it in such a black and white way.
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u/tykaboom 15h ago
Maintaining relevance, I would argue, isn't censorship. By stretching the definition, it could be... but ultimately, we can and do give that a pass. Removing recent reposts also, I would say, isn't censorship at all.
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u/impactedturd 15h ago
Censorship is the suppression of speech based on a person deciding whether they think the material should be distributed or not for whatever reason. You hate reposts, but I love them because most of the time that is when I am seeing that content for the first time. I may submit a post thinking it is relevant to the subreddit, and a mod can disagree and remove it, effectively censoring me.
It's very subjective and that's why there can never be a definitive argument for censorship one way or the other. That's why there will always be some compromise in censorship and free speech.
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u/RefrigeratorBest959 11h ago
just people by themselves do that cause tunnel vision. mankind is an echo chamber
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u/Kehwanna 2h ago
I agree. Censoring is horrible.Ā
Censor illegal content like CP, sure, but not cusswords or nudity on something for mature audience.Ā
What's more wild is that the censorship algorithm for these websites are just dogshit, especially YouTube's. You'll see normal comments get removed, but blatantly xenophobic and sexist ones stay. Reddit is OK for now, but one sub had a mod bot give me a warning saying I was being homophobic when my comment was being super Pro-LGBTQ and had up votes, it didn't have a slur or anything in it.
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u/Shockedge 18h ago
Remember kids: If you enact strict gun regulations, the criminals, mass shooters, corporations, and government will still have guns.
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u/Zealousideal_Bed9062 16h ago
Well if we arenāt getting rid of the guns then the other option is to get rid of the reason to use the guns. You know, build a better society. Unfortunately people seem even more unwilling to do that then get rid of the guns soā¦
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u/Mission_Algae_1415 19h ago
The key word you are using is innocent. He wasn't. He went in every single day and excelled at denying care, lifesaving medicine, life saving procedures, and equipment to the most vulnerable. I would love to see how your definition of innocent would change if you watched your mother, sister, brother, father, or child suffer and die so Brian Thompson could get a raise. I would never condone murder, but all the shock over the American response to this incident is what is crazy to me. How can you not understand the reaction. The American people are done with the BS you and others are trying to sell. Look at history. When a civil society gets to where we make obscene profit off the sick, dyinlg, and most vulnerable, the consequences are inevitable. This conversation has been in social discourse for decades. If our politicians and corporations make billions to make the rest suffer, the outcome is inevitable. If you want the dynamic to change, only way to do it is to end the practices that got us here, not scold us for not feeling sympathy for a man who caused suffering and death for thousands. Again, violence is wrong, murder is wrong, I would never advocate or condone it, but I , as a thinking human, understand the frustration and lack of sympathy and empathy for the Thompsons.
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u/Dan_OBanannon 19h ago
Youāre not wrong. The video is satire though, itās making fun of the double standard of people who say that this murder is horrible while not caring this much about the murders of people they see as less important and pretending that guns arenāt the issue (and legislating as such)
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u/ComprehensiveSell649 4h ago
Shmurdered. Why not say something like ā smokedā it would sound better
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