r/behindthebastards • u/jpotion88 • 1d ago

Considering this guy was not traditionally left leaning…

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From his online footprint it seems like Luigi did not meet the mold many would have expected of a left wing revolutionary. Also considering I have been seeing a lot of “the right looks for allies, the left looks for rats”, I created a new group r/ClassConscious . It’s supposed to be a thread where we can share ideas/memes with people of different political beliefs to continue to solidify the idea of class consciousness in the minds of people who might just be waking up to it. Once people realize that one kind of oppression is wrong, they might realize that other types are wrong too (or at least that’s the idea). I can’t think of a better page to ask for help than the BtB audience. Being around here a while it seems like most people take a rational approach to the problems we face. I am not a content creator or very witty, or all that good at knowing what will grab people’s attention. So I ask you all to help me, with posting and bringing attention to the staggering wealth gap that has developed in our societies. It’s not something that matters just to the left… between Luigi and the elons bullshit, I think this has a fighting chance.

Please post anything you think will appeal to those not normally thinking about r/ClassConscious (ness) in the same way.

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u/oakfield01 1d ago

I'm sorry, but I don't see how this case is about the staggering wealth gap. Luigi Mangione came from a wealthy family in Baltimore who owns multiple country clubs. Prior to becoming an executive, Brian Thompson came from a middle class background and was a CPA.

Don't get me wrong, the wealth gap is an issue, I just don't see this story as a good way to convey that. Sure, talk about how the health insurance industry sucks with this story, but where does the wealth gap come in? Admittedly health insurance may deny care in part to make profit, but that's more classic capitalism than wealth gap.

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u/jpotion88 1d ago

But classic capitalism=wealth gap. The further along we go, the worse it gets. The reason for the connection is that while perusing the fine conservatives and Ben Shapiro boards, I saw people on the right wing espousing very left wing views for pretty much the first time ever… without even knowing it

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u/oakfield01 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah, you are definitely trying too hard if you think capitalism=wealth gap. It eventually leads to the wealth gap, but it does not equal to it. Part of the problem with the wealth gap is also that the rich get richer while the poor get poorer and this is clearly a terrible example of that.

I think rather than thinking that class consciousness that leads to the right being in agreement with the left, but instead everyone's hatred of the health insurance industry which we are all forced into that then allows the system to screw with us. The right doesn't care about class consciousness because they don't care about CEOs making $10m+. They think that's a meritocracy.

And acting like this is an example of the wealth gap when it was a wealthy ivy league grad killed a wealthy CEO is crazy. More likely it's about how even the wealthy can't access good mental healthcare in this country.

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u/jpotion88 1d ago edited 1d ago

Don’t you think it’s strange that even an Ivy League kid from a family with several golf courses was also infuriated buy the system that brought forth the health insurance companies and the most expensive healthcare system with the worst outcomes? Even people we would consider pretty wealthy are upset at their healthcare costs. They might be upset that social media executives are making billions while fucking up their kids mental health. They’re is now become a lot more in common with the wealthy and the poor, than the wealthy and the ultra wealthy

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u/oakfield01 1d ago

I think you're trying to force the narrative in a box you have and want it to be, rather than looking at the actual facts of what happened.

One rich kid killed one executive. He also went missing for months without talking to his family, to the point his family put in a missing persons report because they were worried about him. It is not an example of the wealthy turning on the ultra-wealthy you seem to be inventing to keep your theory that this is an example of class warfare alive. Sorry.

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u/jpotion88 1d ago

How did anything you just say negate anything I said? A rich kid disappeared from his family for months, killed someone ultra-wealthy (whose business actively kept others poor), wrote a manifesto, and when being moved to his cell, yelled to the press about not insulting the intelligence of the American people.

I think you just don’t want to see it

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u/oakfield01 1d ago edited 1d ago

One rich kid. One

If you think that's an example of class warfare, I seriously question if you even know what a class is.

Him disappearing for months and not talking to his family is more of an example of mental health issues than an incredibly intelligent plan to kill a CEO. The best thing to do when committing a crime is to follow your routine as normally as possible before and after.

Hence you are taking facts and fitting them to your theory as opposed to fitting your theory to facts.

But as Robert says, facts can't convince someone who is already brainwashed. Good day

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u/jpotion88 1d ago

That’s cool man. You don’t agree that it’s opening up some people to looking at the wealth gap in a different way. I disagree. You go and do whatever you think will help or whatever

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u/jpotion88 1d ago

Maybe have a look at what the people on some conservatives boards are saying about it btw.

And nooo one from the wealthy class can commiserate or champion labor causes… that’s never happened before

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u/_013517 1d ago

He doesn't know anything about the history of rebellions in this country

Abolitionists were wealthy white people

Nathaniel Bacon was a wealthy white person

Turns out when you're wealthy and not oppressed you have a ton of time to read and even more time to organize and plot

The black civil rights leaders? Also fairly wealthy compared to other black people at the time

Wealth gives you time and freedom