Patch Notes

I just booted up PCB, and found that all of my score data is completely wiped (+ Extra and Phantasm are locked). Years of achievements, just......... Gone. My replays are all still there, and none of my other Touhou games are wiped, it's just PCB.

Has something like this ever happened to any of you?? And, any ideas on what the hell could've happened? I'm really, really sad about it. I'm gonna have to re-unlock everything with every character again........

My computer force-restarted for an update yesterday, so I'm wondering if that somehow deleted my score file, but like...... huh? Why? How?? And why JUST that specific file and nothing else?

Hi guys, I'm a returning touhou player who's been on a hiatus for like 2 years at this point after lunatic 1ccing all the main games before 19 came out. I feel like I'm ready to commit to LNB'ing the main games now even if I'm a bit rusty, but what's a good starting point? I've been heavily debating between 6 and 7, but would love to hear your guys opinions.

Here is a 1cc of SA with Marisa A I did a while back.

I chose Marisa A over Reimu A for strong close range bombs to get rid of more troublesome spells and to have an easier Satori battle.

Marisa A does some insane damage to bosses while unfocused and her focused spreadshot also helps a lot for certain stage sections like Stage 5's popcorn spam. The only limitation being the need to learn and get used to her inverted focus controls and her large af hitbox.

SA is definitely one of the harder clears in the game with spell cards like Orin's ghost wheels and Okuu's first spell but making good use of your resources and using a good shot type makes it more manageable.

TD probably has the highest difficulty jump from Normal to Hard lmao, almost felt like a different game.

I used Marisa for her high overall damage and to shotgun enemies to accumulate spirits. Resources might seem hard to get, but with proper routing and spirit milking, you'll get more than what you need. Not the hardest Hard mode but not the easiest since there are some RNG elements and you can't cheese everything using the mechanics.

Might try LOLK or UFO hard next.

Pls

Out of the trilogy, PCB is just underwelming to me. EOSD has it’s problems, but I personally think is a great game (except stage 4). It’s got memorable characters, soundtrack and stages. IN is my favorite Touhou game of all time, and probably the one i’ve played the most. The music, characters, spell cards, all are amazing.

But PCB, the only time I ever see myself returning is for a 1cc attempt, which I then promptly quit after Alice to go play IN or something out of boredom. I can’t name much that particularly makes it stand out, aside from it’s characters.

It’s not the fact it’s “easy”, I personally think it’s harder then both EOSD and IN, all because of Yuyuko. Had to use all three continues on her one time. And even then, I enjoy games like MoF and Ten Desires quite a bit, even if they are considered to be on the easier side. I think EOSD is the easiest Touhou game, even on hard and Lunatic, but I find myself returning to it a lot more than I do with PCB.

I honestly think the music is at it’s worst here. There isn’t many tracks that just stand out to me. My favorite is stage 2 and Chen’s theme, but that’s about it. And even though I did say difficulty isn’t that big of a factor, stages 1-5 feel so slow and painful to get through because of how the game is a cakewalk until Yuyuko. This would be fine, if the soundtrack was good, which I don’t think it is. MoF for example, I think is very easy until stage 5, but I love the soundtrack so much that those easy stages don’t feel slow to get through.

Characters aren’t bad, I mean it’s got Chen, Alice, Youmu, Yuyuko, Ran, and Yukari. All great, important, or memorable characters. Im not sure how to explain it, but I don’t really find them that interesting in PCB. Other games expand on them a lot more than PCB does.

Comparing it to both the trilogy, and Touhou games after, PCB is pretty easily the worst Touhou game for me, to the point where i’d rather play literally any other Touhou game including the spin-offs (except the fighting games). But all I really see for it is praise, and constanly recommended. Of course, if you love the game, that’s great, and im not trying to convince you otherwise, and i’d like to hear why you like it so much. Maybe theres something im missing? Or something I got wrong. Don’t know, but i’d like to hear what you think.

Hi,I have a question is there a video or a picture of Ellen defeating Yumemi, I just want to know the end of the dialogue of Ellen winning in vs mode.

Edit: Beat Touhou 14. Loved the game, and wasn’t too hard. Still no luck on Kanako though. Marisa A is my best bet

Touhou 7, 10, 13 I struggle with hard. Out of all of them, I think 7 is the easiest, but damn Yuyuko is hard. Rest of the game is a cake walk

10 I feel mixed on. The difficulty feels like it changes a lot. Hina’s spellcard “Bad Fortune” is difficult af, but the rest of the stage and her boss is easy. Nitori is easy, Aya is the easiest boss in the game, but Kanako, dear god. I play MoF a lot, but I have not once gotten close to beating her.

13 feels too easy at times, and boring, to the point where I stop paying attention. Going for the spirits also makes me get hit sometimes.

If I had to guess, maybe I just need to play them more. I don’t enjoy any of three very much, so maybe I just need to play them more.

But for some reason, some games I just don’t struggle with? I was able to get 1cc normal on 6, and beat hard soon after. I’ll probably wait a bit to try lunatic. 8 is fairly easy for me, but with some issues like Tewi’s midboss, other than that, that’s pretty much it for 8.

i haven't heard about the update until a few hours ago due to my lack of interest in the game itself due to me dashing through the characters and getting a 1cc before focusing on the other games. As such, i didn't realize that an update was released, and since i was mildly interested once again thanks to TWC, i wanted to play the game again. I've been searching and trying EVERYTHING i could about how to install the update since i don't own the game on Steam. for some reason, the file closes instantly as soon as i start the process of creating the updated files and i literally couldn't find anything about it. It's all random letters and stuff so i couldn't realistically find a solution and i'd like to know if it also happened to anyone who isn't me, and if you happen to have a solution to this, i'll be paying you in Patchouli's inhalers. Thanks in advance.

I realize that doing all of my 1CC’s with Ghost Team put me at a dead end when it comes to IN LNB since Yuyuko’s damage is too shit for bosses, I’m not skilled enough to use Solo Youmu, I don’t like the way Border Team does stages and I’d rather work on a plantation in 30 degrees Celsius the way my ancestors did than to practice Reimu’s fight for LNB. Maybe if I had more grit & resolve then maybe I’d be able to be competent with the stronger shots in this game.

I remember hearing that Rinnosuke was over 200 somewhere because he remembered Crested Ibis being around and in abundance when he was in the outside world.

However my meagre research hasn't turned up anything on Crested Ibis before they were considered Protected.

So I'm just wondering if anyone else might be able to find something.

When I was doing TD Hard & Lunatic 1cc a while back, it was certainly daunting looking at the limited lives I had to work with, especially with the patterns not being as easy as they were on Normal. I was then enlightened with the “XXC” and Shotgunning strats which made 1cc routing a whole lot easier. The amount of bombs and trances I was using combined were more than the amount of bombs that any classic era 2hu game (TH6-8) gave you on average and it inevitably made it to where I didn’t have to capture a spell card in a said 1cc run. There are even 1cc runs out there that bomb every single attack except for Yoshika & Futo’s final spells. However, this XXC comes with an asterisk of having the balls to be Anti-Reimu when it comes to character selection since her bomb can’t XXC consistently and has the quirk of not being able to leave spirits on screen to refill trance (this is really bad especially if you accidentally die). So this has me wondering how the majority of the playerbase who does main Reimu get through the harder diffs of this game when with her, the difficulty goes from a 3 or 4/10 to possibly a 7/10 due to the variability of Reimu deaths fucking up the entire trajectory of a 1cc run. Smallbox and homing can’t carry you that far to a higher diff 1cc so where is the silver lining?

I have a friend who would like to learn more about the world of Touhou Project, but he doesn't seem to have any interest in games or anything like that.

So, what should I suggest to him in order to become more knowledgeable about Touhou and dive deeper into it ?!

For me I always wanted to appreciate UFO more since I’m one of the few members who actually appreciate the UFO mechanic & hard pattern combos. The only problem is that regardless of the difficulty I’m playing (Normal, Hard, Extra) then Sanae B is the only viable and practical choice for me which I find extremely lame in a game that has 6 shot types.

And how can I obtain/download it?

I had just recently gotten into the series, and have cleared PCB and IN on hard mode (with continues). From what I have seen on some of the touhou-related game forums, the community generally thinks that by 1cc'ing a touhou game, you can earn yourself the title of having beaten said game. Most of the threads on these forums are a few years old, so I think that the general consensus around this has changed.

I am currently trying to 1cc PCB on hard, with extra starting lives. But I ask myself if I am in the process of actually "beating" the game, since I am starting with more than the default amount of lives. So today I ask whether what counts as "beating" a touhou game?

Does clearing all stages on easy mode (with or without continues) count as beating the game? Does clearing all stages on lunatic with all the characters and all of their shot stypes count as beating the game? Does getting all of the endings count as beating the game?

Do note I am not looking for answers like: "It is you who will think if you have beaten a touhou game." I am looking for what the community, or what you personally think.

Extra question: Despite not having played a game in the shmup or the bullet hell genre, I always almost never play touhou with any difficulty lower than hard. I tried to play Subterranean Animism on hard, and instantly died on the first few stages (lol). Is this an insane thing to do (lol)?

what way could I go about getting to play the game? I really want to play it

Ok, maybe this is something well known/accepted and I'm missing out on this (since I never heard anyone talk about this before), but I think Mokou is the protagonist of Dolls in Pseudo Paradise. If not, she's at least deeply connected with it.

First, some context: "Hourai Doll ~ Dolls in Pseudo Paradise" is ZUN's first album. It was released twice. Once during Comiket 62, where it featured a story with 8 unknown humans entering Gensokyo (with the protagonist being the one I think is Mokou), and once during Comiket 63, where all this was replaced with a collection of small texts that didn't exactly form a story.

Now to the reasons why I think Mokou is related:

Mokou's title is "蓬莱の人の形", meaning Figure of the Person of Hourai, but it spells "蓬莱人形" (Hourai Doll) if you remove the connectors (の). And "蓬莱人形" is the kanji part of DiPP's title "蓬莱人形 ～ Dolls in Pseudo Paradise". Mokou also has a spellcard named Hourai Doll (蓬莱人形). If we take another step interpreting the album's title, "Dolls in Pseudo Paradise" implies the characters of the album's story (from Comiket 62), 8 humans who acidentally entered Gensokyo, are the "dolls", which entered Gensokyo, the "Pseudo Paradise". So if the first section is "Hourai Doll" (蓬莱人形), this implies one of these "dolls" came from/had similarities with the land of Hourai, which in legends is said to be inhabited by immortals.

In the wiki, among ZUN's commentaries for each of Mokou's spellcards, two of them were marked as possible references to DiPP. One of them (the commentary for Hourai Doll, no coincidence) is quite explicit:

"I see, so it was you. You were that strange human.
Well, then, you won't die. After all, you're immortal."

Which appears to be a direct reference to this section of DiPP's text (Comiket 63 version):

"It looks like some strange person has slipped through again.
I'd better do something before she gets to the shrine...
Oh, that girl... doesn't look like a human nor a youkai."

So Mokou would've been that strange person, which was neither a human nor a youkai because she's an immortal. I know she's described in the wiki as a human, but many characters in Imperishable Night's dialogues don't acknowledge her as a human because of her immortality, so that would make sense. Besides, IN doesn't have character snippets in its omake.txt so we can't confirm if Mokou's canonically human for sure, we can only take each character's interpretation on what she is, which, as I said, varies. Since DiPP had two releases (Comiket 62 and Comiket 63) with different texts, it may or may not be that this girl, from the Comiket 63 version, is the same as the one in Comiket 62 version, but I have reasons to believe they are both Mokou.

The other commentary was on the "Honest Man's Death" spellcard:

"Woe, how foolish the honest man seems. Yet know this: the only one whose eyes perceive him as foolish are the liar's. In truth, they are the ones most handsomely rewarded. Even in death."

DiPP's story (Comiket 62 version) is all about 8 honest people accidentally entering Gensokyo and dying one after the other. There's even an interlude where the protagonist talks to themselves about how they need to understand the saying that "honesty doesn't pay". Most people interpret this spellcard's name as a reference to Mokou murdering Tsuki no Iwakasa, but I find it weird that the commentary doesn't mention that fact and talks about honesty in general instead. There's more context that makes me think Mokou is the protagonist of the story, but if she was, this commentary would make sense as a reference to it.

Then when I actually checked DiPP's story, although I remebered the protagonist becoming a youkai, there's no mention to her becaming a youkai at all. To summarize the story, 8 people (we later learn it was 7 men and a woman) accidentally enter Gensokyo and die one after the other. The narrator/protagonist tries to hang herself when she realizes what's happening, but she somehow doesn't die, but is rather "reborn". In the end, she tries to hang herself again, and (supposedly) doesn't die again. Then, the shrine maiden describes how she saw a blond girl coming from the house where the 8 people were, and leaving Gensokyo right after. It's then said that there were 8 less people in Gensokyo and seven corpses, which implies the protagonist is the girl who survived her hanging again and left.

This "reborn" is always interpreted as a rebirth as a youkai, but it's never actually mentioned that she became a youkai. People only assume it because she says "I have nothing to lose, so why don't I try pretending to be human just once more?" which implies she isn't human and therefore is a youkai. But, following my argument from earlier, what if she wasn't human because she was immortal? This would also explain a lot of stuff.

First, the way she survived the hangings. Youkai are mortal, and the fact she was a youkai alone wouldn't be enough to say she would survive. We assumed that was the case because at the time it was the best explanation for it, but her being immortal is a much better explanation, paired with the rest of the evidence.

Second, how she left Gensokyo. The Hakurei Barrier is a Barrier of common sense, so Youkai are naturally pulled inside it and can't leave. I know, this could be a loophole in the story, or maybe the barrier wasn't fully set at that time (which could've been years ago, since the shrine maiden was blond and therefore not Reimu), or maybe Yukari just let her leave or something, but it would make sense for her to be able to leave just for not being a youkai, and thus not having any attachments to anyone in Gensokyo and not being related to any fears in common sense like youkai are. Similar to how she accidentally got inside.

Also, Mokou's features also match the description given in the story. She is platinum-blonde, and she describes herself as a coward in Cage in Lunatic Runagate, which also happens in DiPP. Anyway, it just makes sense for this girl and Mokou to be the same person. Is it confirmed/generally accepted and I just missed it? Or am I the first person making thiss connection? Like, I know IN came after DiPP, but there are too many things in common. It's almost as if ZUN first thought of the concept of a girl who drank the Hourai Elixir and became immortal, used it in DiPP, and then made IN with it in mind, creating the context for who the girl is and what the elixir is. Any thoughts on it?

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I’m Curious To See The Responses

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I'm trying to play touhou 10 with both the vpatch and thcrap patches, but for some reason when paired together i notice that frames drop/game speed tanks to a noticable degree (namely bosses dont come in on music cue and it bothers the hell out of me) playing JUST vpatch works but i wanna be able to experience the story of the games as well, could there be something going on that im missing?