r/TransIreland • u/RealDystopiaIsHere • 1d ago
ROI Specific Need some advice
I’m leaving England. It doesn’t feel like home anymore and I need to leave or I feel it will kill me, been offered a place to stay in Ireland for a bit by a friend and her mother. However, I’m just wondering what things I should be doing the moment I’m in the country? As in what services I can access possibly and what services I should be contacting, I’m more than happy going down the homeless route as I’ve done it before, I just rly need advice on the first steps I should and can take..
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u/These-Blacksmith9932 1d ago
For a lot of services you'll need to be ordinarily resident for a year. I recommend poking around https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/ and reading any articles related to your situation
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u/RealDystopiaIsHere 1d ago
Ah oki, I know some people in Ireland who I can probably stay with for a few months it past that I dunno..
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u/Ash___________ 8h ago
If you're moving to Northern Ireland, then the rules are pretty much the same as moving to Wales or Scotland, or to another English city: You keep your same NINO & your level of access to UK-wide services is unchanged; however, you will need to register with the Local Authority in your new area, both to access local services & for Council Tax purposes.
Alternatively, if you're a UK citizen moving to the Republic, then your rights as someone moving to Ireland are similar(ish) to the Freedom of Movement that operates between EU countries:
- You can travel between Ireland & England whenever you want without a visa (& technically without a passport, though that only works if you're willing to get a train up to Scotland, then a ferry to NI, then another train down from NI to your final destination in the Republic)
- You can stay in Ireland visa-free for as long as you want. If you end up staying long-term, then you might eventually wish to simplify your paperwork by becoming an Irish citizen, but that's entirely voluntary - you're perfectly within your rights to move to Ireland as a 20-yo UK citizen, then live here, then die in Ireland as an 90-yo UK citizen, without ever once applying for a visa.
- Both Ireland & the UK are dual-nationality states, meaning that if you do ever become an Irish citizen, you're allowed to keep your UK passport.
- There's basically zero possibility of being deported out of Ireland as a UK citizen. It's theoretically possible if you commit a serious crime here, but even in that scenario you would just be imprisoned here, not deported back to England.
- However, your UK NINO is useless here. One of the first things you should do after moving to the Republic is to apply for a PPSN (our equivalent of a NINO). That isn't technically an immigration requirement, but you'll need a PPSN for virtually any interaction with Irish authorities & public services, so it's effectively mandatory if you're hoping to actually live here (vs. staying intermittently as a long-stay tourist or long-distance commuter)
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u/RealDystopiaIsHere 8h ago
How long from applying for a ppsn will I get it, and is it like something that has requirements to get or it’s more like something I should have..
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u/Ash___________ 8h ago
How long from applying for a ppsn will I get it
Usually less than 5 weeks, but if can be up to 8 weeks if you're unlucky (& even longer if you make a mistake on the paperwork & have to re-submit).
is it like something that has requirements to get
There's a bit of paperwork involved - before you can apply you'll need to create an online account with MvGovID (which can be a hassle, especially if your details are non-standard in any way). But aside from that, the only actual requirements to get a PPSN as a UK citizen are:
- You have to provide documentary evidence of your identity
- You have to explain in writing why you need a PPS Number (straightforward enough in your case - the reason is that you're immigrating to Ireland)
- You'll need to have an Irish address (presumably the address of your friend's mother, if that's where you're staying)
- If you have a passport, you'll have to show it; if you don't, then you can use your birth cert instead
- For some reason you also need to show your current UK driving licence - I have no clue how that works for people without a driver's licence; if you're in that situation, you'd need to contact them and ask for clarification
You can find the full info on the PPSN application process here.
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u/MsNxx 1d ago
Could you be a little clearer with your question?