r/The10thDentist • u/TheDittoMan • Jul 31 '20
Meta - Standard Voting PSA: Stop Insulting The Competition.
Too many times in this sub have I seen posts that put the other side down.
For example: "I hate (thing) and if you disagree you're fucking retarded."
While obviously exaggerated, my point still stands. It's perfectly okay if you hate (thing). It's NOT okay to tell people to go fuck themselves if they disagree.
Believe it or not, if you insult someone, they'll probably not want to listen to you.
TL;DR, Don't be an asshole.
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u/Kpuku Jul 31 '20
I have breathing and if you disagree you're fucking retarded
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u/Azzacura Jul 31 '20
I have the breathing too
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u/Zehzinhu_2000 Orthodontist Jul 31 '20
No, you're not exaggerating. I've seen post literally like this.
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u/Marnico_ Jul 31 '20
YES, THIS. I am absolutely getting sick of seeing posts like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/The10thDentist/comments/i0pf16/i_hate_pixelated_games/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share This trend is really starting to ruin my experience on this sub lately. It is just hate far beyond reason, like this guy is actually concerning himself with this very specific issue every minute of every day.
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u/showmaxter Jul 31 '20
Damn. I mean, might get it if it was his first time playing a pixel game or he got the game gifted. But this guy for real dislikes pixel games, then buys one, and is a surprised (pixelated) Pikachu. WTF?
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u/thjmze21 Dentist Jul 31 '20
Guy from the post here: I bought the game without a dislike of pixelated games. That's what made me realize I hated pixelated games
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u/Marnico_ Jul 31 '20
But why express your opinion in such an extreme way? Wouldn't a softer tone suffice as well? Honest question
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u/thjmze21 Dentist Jul 31 '20
To show that I don't like the games. A lot of people (not in the comments but irl) have been like "Oh you haven't tried the right pixelated game" so a more aggressive tone is required to stop recurring: "Have you tried X???"
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u/Marnico_ Jul 31 '20
I kinda get that. I still think, however, that this sub should (at least ideally) be safe of that
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Jul 31 '20
so a more aggressive tone is required to stop recurring: "Have you tried X???"
An aggressive tone isn't required at all. You can just say, 'I don't like them. Don't recommend any please.'
Then you don't come off as an aggressive asshole, shitting on devs and players who enjoy making and playing those types of games.
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Jul 31 '20
I mean some points were kinda questionable like the whole pixelated games are just devs being lazy.
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u/InfiniousBeatz Orthodontist Jul 31 '20
No, you don't need an aggressive approach. Having an aggressive approach just shows how immature you are. You could calmly explain why you don't like the graphics of that specific game. Don't unnecessarily be a dick.
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u/thjmze21 Dentist Jul 31 '20
I'm not. I'm not even sure if you read the above, I've heard literally all the pixelated game recommendations so it's tiring for me to reply: No I have played it and I didn't like it because of the obnoxiously large pixels.
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u/InfiniousBeatz Orthodontist Jul 31 '20
"So a more aggressive tone is required" it's not nice to lie through your teeth. If they bug you so much then don't play and don't talk about them. Even then you cited Terraria as one but that game's pixels aren't that big.
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u/TokyoTofu Aug 01 '20
Well you don't like pixelated games, that's fair. i don't like pixelated art styles in games either. But that doesn't mean I think the people that make them are shitty devs or just being lazy, and having an artstyle I don't like isn't gonna mean I won't even consider not playing the game. Saying that would be plain unfair and wrong.
I didn't really enjoy Undertale (the whole rpg type thing isn't my thing), but I could tell the story was good and it was conveyed well. Undertale in a 3D highly detailed world wouldn't have looked great, it would've felt odd and just wrong. Same with games like Terraria and Starbound, if it was 3D and realistic looking, the vibe of the game would've been different. Starbound would have been just some space game, and Terraria would've been just some sandbox survival game.
The point is, that all games require different art styles, saying one art style is lazy is unfair, cause they all have different purposes are meant to be used differently. The artstyle just enhances the intended vibe of the game you're trying to play. And if the game ain't your cup of tea, don't play it. But don't insult it and say it's lazy either.
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Jul 31 '20
You played one pixellated game and then proceeded to shit all over every pixellated game despite having never played them, calling them all "garbage" and "low effort". I think that qualifies as inept knowledge of the subject.
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u/thjmze21 Dentist Jul 31 '20
I've played: Celeste, Terraria, The First Mario game and Binding of Issac. I've disliked each and every one of them. Mario was okay since that's a technological limitation but still disliked
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Jul 31 '20
You played Isaac for five minutes and immediately dismissed it based on its art style, then called it crap despite knowing nothing about it. I don't know how much you played the other games, but if that's your attitude I doubt you know enough about them to judge how good they are.
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u/Electron625 Jul 31 '20
I don't entirely understand why you hate pixelated games so much but I respect your view (at least try to)
But I still think many of your comments on them are a bit... excessive. Pixel games or not is just an art style or a way to shift the developers focus into more "important" things that shape the game into what they have envisioned.
Like any form of art, some people dislike certain style of it while some prefer that kind.
Just because you saw some art in that format is lazy doesn't mean the problem comes from that form of art. The creator is lazy.
Many pixelated games are filled with attention to details or some massive content/system that requires way more focus and what draws the targeted customers in.
Those games sold many copies not because consumers can tolerate bad graphics but because those consumer value something more which those games can provide.
It's perfectly fine your requirements include passable graphics but please refrain from calling something shit without understanding why they were praised so much in the first place. It's just another version of judging a book by its cover.
Sorry if I misunderstood your points mentioned in your post. (And I didn't read any of your comments under it.)
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u/L1m1x Jul 31 '20
Get out, and take your pixelation with you
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u/thjmze21 Dentist Jul 31 '20
I'd rather not take my pixelation with me. Y'all can have it, give me back my polygons though.
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u/Marnico_ Jul 31 '20
Maybe as a suggestion: a report option for overly unreasonable posts, like when someone posts that they hate something mundane or easily avoidable so much it ruins their life (like pineapple on pizza), or when someone worships something like it's some kind of fresh cult god.
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u/xixbia Jul 31 '20
I tend to downvote posts like that. This isn't badwomensanatomy (for example) where the upvotes are basically hate votes. It's supposed to be an uncommon opinion, not just vitriol (or as I've sometimes seen straight up misinformation or misunderstanding of the topic at hand, though thankfully I haven't really noticed that for a while, might have the mods to thank for that).
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u/PiesInMyEyes Jul 31 '20
This is what the auto mod is for. Pinned comment downvote it for stuff like this. If more people actually utilized it we wouldn’t have so many of these intentionally inflammatory posts, they’d be taken down quickly.
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Jul 31 '20
Am I allowed to upvote this even if I agree with it?
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u/Marnico_ Jul 31 '20
Yes it is meta
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Jul 31 '20
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Jul 31 '20
I did and couldn't find anything about meta posts, but maybe I just missed it.
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Jul 31 '20
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Jul 31 '20
I can't see a heading that says Post Flairs, all I see is:
- 1.Upvote if you disagree
- 2.No politics
- 3.Simple / Explicit Titles
- 4.No reposts
- 5.No Spam/BS
- 6.Be nice / Reddiquette
- 7.No Food Proof
- 8.No COVID-19 / Corona Virus related posts
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u/vengefulgrapes Jul 31 '20
The Post Flairs heading isn't under Rules as they said, it's its own separate section above the Rules section. Don't worry about missing it; the other person pointed you in slightly the wrong direction.
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Jul 31 '20
Just found out that the flairs section only appears on the main page. I was looking at it from this post.
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u/vengefulgrapes Jul 31 '20
I could see the flairs section from that post. Are you using New Reddit? I'm using Old Reddit.
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Jul 31 '20
Yes, I'm using new Reddit. I find old Reddit confusing.
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u/vengefulgrapes Aug 01 '20
That's fair. I also thought it was confusing for a while. It's not exactly kind to new users.
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u/ZiggoCiP The Last Rule Bender Jul 31 '20
Although the 'discussion thread' flair isn't wholly inappropriate, I decided to change it to meta, although both flairs have a condition of voting normal, as in up for agree, as oppose to normal in this subreddit.
That being said - if anyone sees posts that are phrased like this, I have and will remove them, especially if they are as derisive and use derogatory language.
It should go without saying to not be an asshole. Regardless, decent post OP. If you see something like what you explained, report or, better yet, send a mod mail to us mods and we'll hop on it.
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u/sleeveless_heart Jul 31 '20
Also can we stop downvoting the comments that agree with the OP? Have seen a trend of that - it's an unpopular opinion for a reason.
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Jul 31 '20
The Mods once stated that it's better to downvite OPs comment to know if his opinion is truly underrated
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u/NormalDooder Jul 31 '20
The fact people are willing to upvote things they already might heavily disagree with is an incredible feat. The least we can do is allow them to downvote the comments.
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u/sleeveless_heart Jul 31 '20
That's very fair. But this makes me very hesitant to participate in the comments because I do not want to get downvoted into oblivion just because of my thoughts on an animated series xD
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u/kithon1 Jul 31 '20
I mean. Just don't comment. If you truly believe what you post than you should be prepared to defend your stance and take the potential downvotes. If the downvotes scare you than you must not believe in your opinion enough to be worth posting.
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u/xixbia Jul 31 '20
It's the reason I'm here. It's absolutely terrible and I've not been back there since the moment I saw a comment referring this place.
From what I can tell it devolved into upvoting two types of posts. It's either opinions that are popular, or opinions that are in some way bigoted but held by a lot of people.
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Jul 31 '20
I really hate this post condemning people for snacking. Like, just say you hate snacks and move on bitch
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u/TokyoTofu Aug 01 '20
I even noped out of a date when I saw that the guy I was with bought three doughnuts thinking about eating all of them at once an hour after lunch.
3 donuts is a lot?! wtf? And it's an hour before lunch, that's plenty of time, Lunch ain't that big a meal, and 3 donuts ain't enough to fill a stomach.
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u/nodnarb232001 Jul 31 '20
This is supposed to be a fun and lighthearted place I thought.
Mods, please, don't let this sub become a hate filled shithole.
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u/yellowjacket81 Jul 31 '20
I am generally speaking inclined to agree with this, however I freely make a few exceptions:
- when a post is clearly against what I perceive the spirit of this sub to be. If a post is incredibly boring (about food preferences) or isn't really that rare of an idea, I reserve the right to shit all over OP, and downvote him even though I disagree.
- when an opinion is really vile, like people talking about how racism is dead or Trump is cool. In those cases I reserve the right to shit all over OP.
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u/HeadphonesGal Jul 31 '20
In these cases, it's important to report.
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u/yellowjacket81 Aug 01 '20
I have a standing rule against talking with moderators - no good for me ever comes out of it. Besides, those guys are busy, why get them involved when the community itself is more than capable of self-moderating with downvotes and borderline emotional abuse?
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u/agitwabaa Aug 01 '20
Why is "Trump is cool" an incredibly vile opinion???
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u/yellowjacket81 Aug 01 '20
Well in my eyes there are two types of trump voters:
- republicans who can't bring themselves to vote for a democrat, and support Trump because he's not Hillary Clinton / Joe Biden, and he is likely to at least nominally support a conservative agenda. I disagree with these people, but I understand where they are coming from.
- deplorable shitfucking vile anti-science anti-intellectual anti-decency bastards who actually get behind the things that make Trump stand out from other Republicans. Folks who take a look at that bright orange turd and are actually stupid enough to say, "Yes, this is the direction I want our country to go."
Does that answer your question?
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u/tomatomater Jul 31 '20
I suppose the nature of this sub is to encourage polarising opinions, just not in a malicious way, but polarising thoughts generally stem from a toxic mindset. It is up to the people who post or comment here to observe themselves.
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u/youre-welcome-sir Jul 31 '20
So do I downvoted this then? Because I agree
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u/xixbia Jul 31 '20
I mostly agree, I'm just utterly confused why, especially in the context of your post, you refer to those who disagree with you as the competition.
There is no competition here, that's the whole point. Calling it competition makes it seem that the point is to win.
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u/Winterseele Jul 31 '20
Yes! For me this is a kind of "innocent" subreddit with odd preferences of the people who are posting. Wholesome funny in some way and not "discussable". Otherwise it would, like some others already said, just be 'unpopular opinion".
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u/Sumoki_Kuma Aug 01 '20
Does the whole "omg this is disgusting, I hate you. Take my upvote" reply count? Cause I don't think we're actually insulting OP, just being extra xD
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u/TommyAndPhilbert Jul 31 '20 edited Jul 31 '20
I agree. Downvoted.
Edit: I didn’t know the rule about meta posts, I’ve upvoted the post.
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u/Reynoldssas Jul 31 '20
I feel like its to get a bigger reaction out of the reader with a differing opinion, if you're insulted you may want to do something back- so people are more likely to upvote to disagree. Imo trying harder just to get karma rather than discuss their actual opinion
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u/Spaciax Aug 01 '20
yeah, you see this a lot on the internet. That's why i advise EVERYONE to just stay away from internet arguments.
I've heard it before but never truly believed it, until i learned my lesson. Surely people can't be super apathetic and insensitive, surely? right?
nah, people are stupid beyond imagination. I mean you can still try but you'll end up with the same outcome eventually
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Aug 01 '20 edited Aug 01 '20
Downvoted cuz I agree. /s
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u/Iamdeadinside2002 Dental Assistant Aug 01 '20
It's a Meta post. Use standard voting
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Aug 01 '20
That's the joke.
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u/Iamdeadinside2002 Dental Assistant Aug 01 '20
Us
/snext time because the joke is not at all obvious0
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u/alcoholicasshat Jul 31 '20
Well this is a snowflake post if I've ever seen one.
If you're not thick skinned and competent enough to identify when people are being over-the-top inflammatory melons, welcome to Reddit. You're gonna have a really, really rough time.
Don't even get me started on the real world.
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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '20
If we want this sub to not turn into r/unpopularopinion then we have to make sure the people here aren’t dicks. Great post OP