r/SwingDancing Jason Segel Impersonator 7d ago

Discussion Triple steps ≠ "syncopation"

Please dear God can we stop using this phrase wrong.

What you mean to say is that your triple steps are "swung".

Syncopation describes a moment; swung can describe an entire song.

When musicians talk about it, you don't say you have straight eighth notes and then syncopated eighth notes, that would be a nonsense statement. You say they are swung eighth notes.

If you want an example of syncopation, you could look to the song Castle Rock. That accent in the melody at the beginning is it good example of syncopation.

Syncopation does happen a lot in swing music, but it is not present in a step-step triple step basic in either six or eight counts.

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u/Gyrfalcon63 7d ago

If we want to talk about something common that does have syncopation, the full (TOBA) break from the Shim Sham, and even the classic half break if you do the kick ball change on the & (and lots of other common breaks that appear in the big line dances) would be good examples.