r/SelfAwarewolves 20d ago

So you're not a Christian, then?

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u/LineOfInquiry 20d ago

No he didn’t. He was totally fine with slavery, and his biggest followers were all openly homophobic. He may have had an egalitarian message when it comes to gender because of some versions of Paul’s letters, but it’s still debated if the egalitarian ones were the original ones or the changed ones. I lean more towards them being the originals, but even then women still had to follow all the Old Testament laws: even according to Jesus.

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u/BlackBoiFlyy 20d ago edited 20d ago

He was totally fine with slavery, and his biggest followers were all openly homophobic.

Its a common misconception due to how slave/servant was translated. But he definitely wasn't pro-slavery. His teachings may not have been explicitly anti-slavery, but nothing he said implied that he was perfectly fine with it either.

Jesus definitely wasn’t homophobic.

He may have had an egalitarian message when it comes to gender because of some versions of Paul’s letters, but it’s still debated if the egalitarian ones were the original ones or the changed ones.

You're talking about Paul, not Jesus. I feel it's important to remember that the New Testament was written by others and that Jesus wasn't even there for much of it. I can understand why you may come to the conclusion that Christianity promotes homophobia, but Jesus was pretty explicit about not being hateful. His disciples having different opinions is a big flaw in the whole religion, though. Big reason why I couldn't stick with that bs.

Edit: typos and clarifications

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u/SitueradKunskap 20d ago

I feel it's important to remember that much of the new testament was written by other people, not Jesus.

Which parts are written by Jesus? I didn't think there were any.

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u/BlackBoiFlyy 20d ago

True, he didn't write any of it. I was trying to say that for much of the New Testament, Jesus was already gone and not physically there telling them what to write.

Idk why I phrased it like that, my bad.

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u/northrupthebandgeek 19d ago

Pretty sure for all of the New Testament Jesus was already gone and not physically there telling the authors what to write, considering that the absolute oldest book (Galatians) was likely written a decade or so after the crucifixion/resurrection/ascent.

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u/BlackBoiFlyy 19d ago

That's essentially what I said?