r/ROI • u/CautiousListen5914 • Aug 18 '24

🇺🇸 AmeriKKKa Ukrainians looting and stealing in Kursk region… then bragging about it. Shameless.

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u/WintersIsComing95 Aug 18 '24

Well IDK about shameless, maybe quiet justified in this situation given the war they've endured on their country the last few years

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 18 '24

A lot of these are yank mercs and Germans. They started this war and kept it going so fuck em.

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u/WintersIsComing95 Aug 18 '24

Ahh OP honestly It is good to have people see all the different perspectives and make their own decisions with dignity but I suppose I think The opposite of what you think in this matter and there's nothing wrong with either opinion but I respectfully disagree

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 19 '24

there's nothing wrong with either opinion

One is based in western war propaganda and the other is rooted in reality.

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u/WintersIsComing95 Aug 19 '24

Where you from bro?

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 19 '24

I'm from Ireland, you? USA by the sounds of it.

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u/WintersIsComing95 Aug 19 '24

Also Ireland, I'm curious would you give me the long winded version of your thinking?

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 19 '24

This war was started by the USA overthrowing Ukraine's democracy in 2014 and installing a puppet Nazi government designed to be a proxy for NATO to threaten Russia. The US believed they could take over Russia again and loot and pillage it like they did in the 90s. With the Iraq war, they lost control of it when Putin refused to help them murder a million plus Iraqis. He was supposed to be their tame, controlled dictator of the place that they were selling off to their oligarchs for pennies.

This was all well understood and known before the massive propaganda avalanche after the 2022 invasion (that Russia tried to avoid for the 8 years prior). Absurd repetition of the "Unprovoked" invasion. Reinventing history to spin a yarn about Russia just deciding to invade to steal land etc.

Most people think they're immune to propaganda, or that it's just not happening to them, it happens to people in foreign countries.

Here's the news before the invasion:

Forbes - Ukraine Deradicalized Its Extremist Troops. Now They Might Be Preparing A Counteroffensive

The Hill - Congress bans arms to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis

Years of the Western (BBC) Media Admitting to Extremism Among Azov Military Units:

BBC - Outside Source, (March 23, 2022)

BBC - Torch-lit march in Kiev by Ukraine's far-right Svoboda Party (2014)

BBC - Neo-Nazi threat in new Ukraine: NEWSNIGHT (2014)

BBC - Ukraine conflict: 'White power' warrior from Sweden (2014)

BBC - Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict (2014)

BBC - Ukraine's most-feared volunteers (2015)

BBC - The far-right group threatening to overthrow Ukraine's government - Newsnight (2015)

BBC - Ukraine: On patrol with the far-right National Militia - BBC Newsnight (2018)

BBC - Ukraine coat of arms in UK anti-terror list furore (2020)

BBC - Behind Belarusian 'far-right mercenary' claims (2021)

Al Jazeera - Ukrainian fighters grease bullets against Chechens with pig fat (2022)

The Hill - The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda (2017)

These are all western sources. This was real reporting. I think the question you have to answer is were they lying then? Or are they lying now?