r/PublicFreakout Oct 01 '24

šŸŒŽ World Events Missile impacts in Israel

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u/austinyo6 Oct 01 '24

Did the iron dome run out of US interceptor rockets?

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u/theekumquat Oct 01 '24

A lot of misinformation in this thread (as usual for this subreddit). The iron dome does not intercept ballistic missiles. Israel has Arrow, David's Sling, and Patriot missile systems for ballistic missile interceptions. In general, ballistic missiles are much harder to intercept.

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u/Bbrhuft Oct 01 '24

Interception also depends on the ELM-2040 Over the Horizon Radar, which bounces 6 to 30 MHz radar (high Frequency / HF) off the ionosphere to detect and track missiles over the horizon. HF is affected by solar activity, there was a solar flare and high solar activity today, and a radio blackout. So I am wondering if solar activity degraded the perfomance of Israel's the OTR.

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/goes-x-ray-flux

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u/mr_potatoface Oct 01 '24

1000 IQ play by Iran if they were timing the attack in coordination with the Sun. High solar flare activity has been noted for weeks at this point since we're in a very active period of the cycle. They may have just been waiting for the right location/intensity. Sounds like the Sun is a co-conspirator in this attack. Does the Sun have oil? Maybe the Sun needs some freedom.

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u/United_Internal_2683 Oct 01 '24

Zoroastrians were right, holy shit.

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u/Quad-Banned120 Oct 02 '24

The sun is confirmed antisemitic

/s just in case

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u/RentPsychological799 Oct 01 '24

I also heard if the missiles land in areas that are not populated or will not cause casualties they will not try to intercept

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u/Hi-archy Oct 01 '24

Thank you human with brain.

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u/cRAY_Bones Oct 01 '24

What does the iron dome intercept? Are there missiles that arenā€™t ballistic?

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u/theekumquat Oct 01 '24

The word "ballistic" means different things in the colloquial or physics sense than it does in the military sense. For missiles, it usually refers to a projectile that launches into the Earth's atmosphere and comes down at a very steep descent angle and high speed, making interception difficult. Iron Dome is meant to intercept small, simple rockets and slow-flying drones with easily calculable trajectories that are easier to intercept.

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u/jj4leafclova Oct 01 '24

Yes there are. Cruise missiles are a pretty well known type. They do not leave the atmosphere and usually ā€œcruiseā€ relatively low. The Iron Dome can take them out. The Iron Dome frequently has been shown on videos taking out the unguided rockets that Hezbollah launches into Israel from time to time.

Israel has other air defenses that can take out ballistic missiles, such as Davidā€™s Sling or the Arrow system, depending on the type of ballistic missile.

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u/itsLOSE-notLOOSE Oct 01 '24

Thatā€™s what Iā€™m wondering too.

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u/orangeyougladiator Oct 02 '24

Iron Dome intercepts dumb rockets and drones, like the shit Hamas and Hexbollah have fired thousands of. Theyā€™re non guided fire and forget trash that hit wherever it lands.

Ballistic missiles exit earths atmosphere and re enter at approximately 2000mph, which makes them incredibly difficult to intercept

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u/FuckAdamMorgan Oct 01 '24

Regardless of context, "David's Sling" is an awesome fucking name

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u/TuckerMcG Oct 01 '24

Right? Same with Iron Dome. Fuckin S-tier branding

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u/FUMFVR Oct 01 '24

Iran hit a US base in Iraq with these missiles back in 2020 if anyone can remember that far back. If the US can't intercept them, Israel can't.

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u/JupiterJonesJr Oct 01 '24

David's.... Sling...

David's sling. David's sling? Really, Israel? You corny motherfuckers.

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u/JustHereForTheHuman Oct 01 '24

The iron dome does not intercept ballistic missiles.

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u/joeb690 Oct 01 '24

All researched, developed, provided and financed by the American taxpayer?

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u/theekumquat Oct 01 '24

Arrow is jointly funded and developed by the US and Israel.

David's Sling is jointly funded and developed by the US and Israel.

Israel's military industry does much of the manufacturing and research while the US does most of the funding.

Patriot is an older missile defense system developed by the US.

If you don't want military funding going to missile defense, I'm not sure what'd you rather it be spent on. Offensive weapons perhaps?

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u/joeb690 Oct 02 '24

They are also receiving enough funding for their offensive weapons so I donā€™t under that part or you reply but thanks for the info. Jointly funded is I feel a little disingenuous considering how much funding Israel receives from the United States.