r/Political_Revolution Nov 08 '24

Article An Anti-Trump protest in Chicago.

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u/Aware-Impact-1981 Nov 08 '24

The fuck is this supposed to do?

At this point, Dems need to be taking a hard look at their leadership, messaging, lack of media presence, and why the leadership won't blame billionaires for any of outlets societal problems. They need to rebuild the leadership around you intelligent leaders who understand why so many want Trump. If Bernie was 15 years younger I'd say him. If AOC was 15 years older Id say her.

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u/hirschneb13 Nov 08 '24

We need a Bernie apprentice. It could be AOC but I think we've seen it's going to be pretty difficult to elect a woman President for a while

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u/duckofdeath87 Nov 08 '24

I think we are going to need a whole new constitution soon. New courts, new legislature. New processes. New institutions

Everything is built to MAGA's benefit. It's too easy to consolidate power

We need proportional representation

We need a whole new method to select judges

We need to replace the executive with a suite of constitutional officers (many states do this already)

We need federal direct ballot initiatives for any restrictions of human rights or controversial topics

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u/GrimWolf216 Nov 09 '24

From the start, all oppressed groups could immediately be recognized and guaranteed equal protections under the law.

We could also rewrite the criminal justice system—law enforcement and prisons don’t need to remain as they are.

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u/duckofdeath87 Nov 09 '24

Love this

The military has a unified code of justice and strict rules of engagement. The police should have the sale structure (adjusted for civilian situations)

There are great models for prisons we can use too.

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u/GrimWolf216 Nov 09 '24

We can also look at other countries that take a far more humanitarian approach to rehabilitation. Northern EU comes to mind, it’s possibly Netherlands or Finland that I’m thinking of.

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u/Aware-Impact-1981 Nov 09 '24

You can say what we "need" and list things that will never happen if you want too, but the rest of us are going to keep it relevant to the real world. I mean really, sorry to be a dick bit do you know how hard it is to change the constitution? You're pretty much saying Dems have to go full dictator and wield power with an irl fist to create a new country in effect.

The constitution isn't the problem. The problem is conservative justices that get lavish vacations to interpret the constitution a certain way, and right wing media that brainwashes their voted with an echo chamber

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u/duckofdeath87 Nov 09 '24

How do we work in the current framework and do any of that? We can't get rid of the conservative justices under the current framework

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u/Mediocritologist Nov 08 '24

This is basically most of the "Genocide Joe, free Palestine" people who were loud during the election and then didn't vote at all. Have fun at your marches now bc you'll be jailed for doing that after January while Palestine is distant memory.

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u/Unkabunkabeekabike Nov 08 '24

It's funny... most of my neighborhood still has their harris/walz signs still up. My one neighbor with the Jill Stain sign with a handwritten extention about kamala and genocide, removed their sign WITH A QUICKNESS.

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u/Dralex75 Nov 09 '24

That is the sad thing. This was the only election to have their voices heard. 4 years from now the Palestinians may not exist any more because of this election.

They are the scorpion that stung the frog.