I mean republicans won seats in the senate everywhere. It was the red wave we’ve been promised, people didn’t show out anywhere except a few states that got abortion protections pushed
Why isn't there more effort to bring attention to the fact that we need a constitutional amendment to abolish the electoral college? People everywhere wouldn't have an excuse to be apathetic if every vote did matter.
Dude: he won the popular vote. That would not have changed anything. I mean, maybe, it would have resulted in a Clinton presidency, or even a Gore one. But, we’re talking about the future, and the future is voter turnout for the Dems.
we have no way of knowing how many people who would have voted for Harris stayed home because they felt their vote wouldn't have counted, either because they lived in a safe blue state they she was going to win anyway, or a safe red one they knew she wouldn't.
That's the point. If the people in highly populated areas voted more there would never be another hard-line conservative president. Electoral college makes someone in a blue state say fuck it and not even bother to vote for local shit. Slow and steady progress is better than the negative progress we are seeing with this apathy, Dudes.
No, there was really no chance. Right wing pundits controls social media and every mainstream source only ever responds to Fox News instead of ever countering them.
In 2022 there were 161 million registered voters, trump got (currently) 74m votes, so 87m registered voters (more if you assume the 2024 registered number is higher) did not vote for him. Currently 70m voted for Kamala. So with current numbers 17m voted 3rd party or did not vote. If 5 of those 17m voted for Kamala she might have still lost the electoral vote, depending on where those voters live, but she would have the popular vote. Part of the Republican propaganda is also to make you feel like democracy is useless and sit home, passively let them take power. Every single vote very much matters.
They’re more than partly to blame for sure, Fox News and the like is the only reason the Republican Party is where it is, but there’s personal accountability too when that information was prevalent even in conservative media and extremely accessible. Some people are painfully unaware of everything going on around them, no matter how many ways you try to tell them
That's kind of the stick though - people celebrate being misinformed or uneducated (fear or mistrust of intellectualism), they only get information from "trusted" sources that tell them what they already know is true, and don't talk to anyone outside of their bubble.
Why would someone who brags about not reading a book since the age of 15 voluntarily look up information that challenges their worldview?
The dems never really had any counterpoint to the firehose of BS from Fox and other places. This, coupled with the lack of any action from the DOJ to deal with the cancer from the previous four years, left us in a bad spot. The folks who decided not to show up to vote sealed the deal.
This is where I'm at. This is the "find out" phase. I'm sorry for those of us who got it right and the people in other countries who are going to be hurt, but I've got my popcorn ready to watch this unfold with the MAGAts and nonvoters. The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed.
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u/Crushmonkies Nov 08 '24
If you did not vote for harris you dont get to be upset that trump won