r/OnePieceTC • u/Shi-Shishi-Sonson Kyuuzan Hakkai Kirenu Mono Nashi • Jan 14 '19
JPN PSA TM Rewards are out.
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u/Shi-Shishi-Sonson Kyuuzan Hakkai Kirenu Mono Nashi Jan 14 '19
Sw Shanks and Usopp well... got usopp on my 3M ticket too so dupe dupe dupe aaaaand dupe
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u/inaderantaro Will you die? Or will you fight? Jan 14 '19
Dupe Shanks V1 and Neko. Well I just rainbow Garp so that is good.
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u/Whadafaag ~Donuts~ Jan 14 '19
got 1 legend and 1 gold ticket from rewards. They were a dupe v1 jimbe and a brand new RR baccarat. She was the missing 1 to complete the tesoro batch, am happy.
Since tm big mom, the only new legend I got from all those legend tickets were v2 doffy and boa v2. All the rest were dupes, mostly v1 dupes. Like 20 legend tickets and only 2 new legends so far lmao.
I roughly have half of the total legends released in the game and still these tickets give nothing but 5k ray points
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u/GGW_974 Jan 14 '19
The last red poster was DEFNITELY worth the grind !! \o/
- silver tickets: already sold them to Ray's house
- Golds: all dupes and old (some were already fed for LB)
- Jozu
- Tsuru
- Giolla
- Pekoms
- V2 Moria
- Machvise
- Legends:
- 3 M: Franky (already rainbowed and 5*)
- 5 M: Magellan (missing 4 to rainbow)
- Rewards
- 3D2Y Luffy
- Log Luffy (-_-)
- AND FINALLY: WARCO !!!! YEAAAAAAH My first Dual Legend !! So Happy, this pull saved this Horrible TM
Good Luck on your pulls ;)
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u/yearightpunk Jan 14 '19
This TM was the fucking worst and not worth the grind for me. All gold dupes and WB from 3M, Goku from 5m, and TSL from the rank reward. orz
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u/Gear56 Perpetual Bounce!!!! Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 15 '19
#7 Black Beard and #4 Zoro from my red pulls!
Edit: fix formatting, didn’t know that # make texts bold and larger :P
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u/TheOriginalClutch Promising Rookie Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
Time to get cucked boys. Edit: got log Luffy.
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u/Akai_Arashi Promising Rookie Jan 14 '19
The best way to prepare yourself is to wish for Sengoku. Anything else is better.
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u/Suburban_turd Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
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u/x3bo33 Promising Rookie Jan 14 '19
I also got new Zeph and dupe G4 this tm. Not from rankings tho.
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u/x3bo33 Promising Rookie Jan 14 '19
Got my frist Sengoku.
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u/Shi-Shishi-Sonson Kyuuzan Hakkai Kirenu Mono Nashi Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
I don't know should i congrats you or feel sorry for you XD
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u/JackGarnier Jan 14 '19
3 reds out of 2 red tickets and 1 gold ticket.
Zoro, Neko and freaking sengoku. all dupes
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u/howsoun Promising Rookie Jan 14 '19
I got: 3 mil ticket - Ace (dupe) 5 mil ticket - V2 Shanks! (New!)
TM Rewards: Gold to red - V1 Boa (dupe) Red Ticket - V1 Jimbei (dupe)
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u/Marimoluffy <---my new biatch! Jan 15 '19
Only did 1m. Ra ked 22k+ got 2 gold tickets.. Now thats where fun begins.. First 20 ani sanji 2nd 20 ani zoro lol how wierd wasn't expecting anything but it was fun before anyone ask bıth dupe lol.
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u/Muddather Promising Rookie Jan 15 '19
3m ticket WhiteBeard (omg) ..rewards log luffy (omg too)..i mean realy this whitebeard when will we ever get a v2 one hah? Bandai?!!
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u/getschwifty1197 Jan 15 '19
Wow, this is the 4th time that my gold pull turned into a legend in TM.
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u/PixeLeaf shit just got real Jan 15 '19
I got a gold and silver tickets. But the gold gave my a red... A dupe log luffy
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u/Alpii_Vinsmoke Promising Rookie Jan 15 '19
What did u pull?
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u/Shi-Shishi-Sonson Kyuuzan Hakkai Kirenu Mono Nashi Jan 15 '19
SW Shanks and Usopp... got usopp on my 3M ticket too that would be nice if they were new but both dupes 🤣 this TM not only the bird system was shit
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u/Mr_Raindrop_ King Jan 15 '19
Good to see another Samsung user :) How do you like the new Pie navigation bar?
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u/hihohu7 Jan 15 '19
At which TM did they change the rank for 2 legends on JP? On global we still need top 500 for 2 legends which sucks.
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u/Ropshipilaci381 Promising Rookie Jan 14 '19
I got 1red from new league tm and this is the first time EVER i got a great new legend and it was the fucking LUFFY & ACE
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u/TraffLaw "Murder isn't my style. I am a doctor after all." Jan 14 '19
Got Nami. She's a dupe but a good one for rankings.
Also got SW Robin and Suleiman who are useless but at least i'm closer to rainbowing Robin and Bege.
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u/netoss1 SUUUPER DONDAKE!!! Jan 14 '19
after a very bad tm and dupes at least i got carrot im so happy i finally have some luck
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Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
Only did enough to stay in NW, this TM was just complete garbage.
Dupe Mihawk, some silver, some gold.
Eh.
Downvoted for not liking something that was objectively poorly designed. Stay classy.
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u/geothewolfboy Jan 14 '19
Got legend Z but he’s another dupe. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) boy oh boy i sure hate this game sometimes
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u/ssjgokuu Robin-chwann~ [JPN]: 822,350,946 Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '19
Got Judge and his boy Sanji lol, both dupes. Also rainbowed Warco and BM with the tablets. Next up to rainbow Carrot next TM, need 3 more levels for red shield :D
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u/Teddysp Promising Rookie Jan 14 '19
I got rayleigh v1 Shirahoshi And last one was Blackbeard which is new. so fuckin worth the grind
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u/FateOfMuffins Doktah Carrot Muffins Jan 14 '19
Woops, accidentally ended off at 10145 and missed the 10k mark...
Anyways, red was... V2 Boa. Again. I got 2 extra surprises this TM, so I'm walking away with Inthawk (nth dupe), 2 Magellan dupes (I just got him from New Years...) and 2 V2 Boa dupes...
Got Vivi though! <- tfw you get more excited about a silver than all the other pulls
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Jan 14 '19
I'm surprised you only got that ranking with how much you talked positively of this TM...
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u/FateOfMuffins Doktah Carrot Muffins Jan 14 '19
??? I've never praised this TM, I just stated that it was fairly average. Which to you I guess meant I was sucking up to Bandai or some shit, cause all you did was complain.
And what does that have anything to do with my ranking? I've always went for either top 5k or just 5M and a bit depending on how much time I have. Like I've told you already, I never have the RR boosters, so I never aim for anything more.
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Jan 14 '19
When have I ever accused someone of sucking up to Bandai, much less you? I've interacted with you a couple times usually on mathematical matters relating to OPTC
Boss went up by a paltry 198 points and minibosses a mere 60. Coupled with the absurdly low starting points of 3k and 1k respectively, what was "average"?
A run with the bird was still less rewarding than an equivalent navigation level run of TM Nami which lacked the feature. It was a TM purely designed around chasing losses.
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u/FateOfMuffins Doktah Carrot Muffins Jan 14 '19
The thing is, you're grossly over exaggerating how much of an effect that has. Yes for the average player you might need to do 2-3 more runs to reach 5M, but that hardly makes it completely unrewarding to run like you make it out to be. If you typically aim for more than 5M, then there really isn't much difference.
The one argument I will concede on bird TMs (that you haven't brought up) is that they are more skewed towards P2W. From some preliminary number crunching, if you use just 1 TM booster vs boss & invasion (which is actually doable without owning the booster, if you have the friends that is), you will break even with TM Nami (also using 1 booster vs boss) despite the lower initial points of TM Kaido, because you can use it twice. If you have more, then it becomes even more skewed in favor of bird TMs.
I'm done debating this btw.
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Jan 14 '19
The thing is, you're grossly over exaggerating how much of an effect that has. Yes for the average player you might need to do 2-3 more runs to reach 5M, but that hardly makes it completely unrewarding to run like you make it out to be. If you typically aim for more than 5M, then there really isn't much difference.
That's pretty inaccurate.
Even assuming your 70% bird rate is accurate, that's a lot more than "2-3 more runs". A run with the bird is worth 1 run in TM Nami.
Three runs without a bird are worth 1 run of TM Nami. It takes a bit more than two runs, not quite three, but obviously you're doing whole runs so it's three runs.
You miss one bird, and you're set back deeply. This is why I said it's a series of chasing losses. If you somehow never miss the bird, it's about equal (just a bit worse off) than TM Nami.
Completely unrewarding is entirely accurate. You barely get points and they barely go up. You need a chance to activate to earn a little bit less than the previous TM. How pathetic is that? Imagine if your boss told you that you only had a 70% chance to earn a full day's pay but if you fail the chance, you still have to put in the same exact amount of effort. You just don't get your full paycheck, you only get a third of it.
Also, the points boosters sucked. Anything useful was 1.2x or less. Even the latest and greatest Legends were a mere 1.35x and weren't even that great for the Ambush OR main bosses.
Let's look at other bird TMs:
- TM Law: Legend Zephyr was a 1.75x booster and old legend Capone was 1.35x. In-between Shanks and Boa. Zephyr is great for both fights.
- TM Boa: Legend Jimbe was a 1.35x booster. High bird rate. Jimbe is great for both fights.
- TM Shanks: Legend Garp was merely a 1.5x booster just like the three RRs. Big Mom and Brook were 1.35x. Poor bird rate. Garp is not very good for either fight due to how awkward he is to build around.
- TM Big Mom: Legend Tesoro was a 1.75x booster and G4 and Nami were 1.35x. Very high bird rate. Tesoro works great if you have his batch.
The one argument I will concede on bird TMs (that you haven't brought up) is that they are more skewed towards P2W.
I haven't brought it up because it's outright wrong.
Bird TMs are usually far more F2P friendly because you're supposed to be gaining a lot more points faster.
From some preliminary number crunching, if you use just 1 TM booster vs boss & invasion (which is actually doable without owning the booster, if you have the friends that is)
Can't use a friend one. We haven't had a useable "TM booster" (dedicated to the TM mode, so no counting Zephyr and Ain/Binz) as a captain since TM Inuarashi all the way back during Jack. Higuma was useable for a few useless navigation levels and nothing more.
you will break even with TM Nami (also using 1 booster vs boss) despite the lower initial points of TM Kaido, because you can use it twice.
No, you won't. Aside from the booster tanking your team hard by being a captain, you're forgetting how in the heck do you get them to appear on your friend list without owning them yourself for the friend matching. Hope to god that people have them up? Spend several minutes constantly relogging?
If you have more, then it becomes even more skewed in favor of bird TMs.
Bird TMs are supposed to be better. In reality, that's not always the case because absolutely horrific execution like this TM can cause that to not happen.
I'm done debating this btw.
Then I wonder why you even made this post.
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u/FateOfMuffins Doktah Carrot Muffins Jan 14 '19
OK fine you get a reply due to just how many gross inaccuracies you have in your post.
Even assuming your 70% bird rate is accurate, that's a lot more than "2-3 more runs"
36 runs for 5M Nami (non-RNG reliant), ~39 runs for 5M Kaido (with 69% bird rate). Will vary due to how lucky you are personally, but not more than a couple in each direction. Not "a lot more".
weren't even that great for the Ambush OR main bosses.
??? Katakuri and Snakeman wrecks both Kaido and Jack. What are you on about???
I haven't brought it up because it's outright wrong. Bird TMs are usually far more F2P friendly because you're supposed to be gaining a lot more points faster.
And that's where you're wrong. In the ideal bird TM, yes F2P players will be getting points faster (in comparison to themselves that is). Why are they more P2W than F2P? Cause P2W players get to use their absurd point boosters twice. Yes it should be faster for F2P, but it is MUCH faster for P2P. Relatively, it's a lot more P2W.
Can't use a friend one. We haven't had a useable "TM booster" (dedicated to the TM mode, so no counting Zephyr and Ain/Binz) as a captain since TM Inuarashi all the way back during Jack. Higuma was useable for a few useless navigation levels and nothing more.
You can use a friend booster for the first couple dozen levels vs Kaido. You can use a friend booster vs Jack up to over level 150.
No, you won't. Aside from the booster tanking your team hard by being a captain, you're forgetting how in the heck do you get them to appear on your friend list without owning them yourself for the friend matching. Hope to god that people have them up? Spend several minutes constantly relogging?
That's exactly why I said it was P2W?
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Jan 14 '19
36 runs for 5M Nami (non-RNG reliant), ~39 runs for 5M Kaido (with 69% bird rate). Will vary due to how lucky you are personally, but not more than a couple in each direction. Not "a lot more".
In what world is it average that with a 69% bird rate you're only having three runs fail to get the bird out of 39? Did you forget to mention something? 69% means, roughly, 1 in 3 runs fail to get the bird. You're calculating that as one to three runs fail to get the bird period.
??? Katakuri and Snakeman wrecks both Kaido and Jack. What are you on about???
Snakeman does okay against Kaido. Too bad 6+ Cavendish does *better. The much older Legend. Compared to how the TMs usually are for the new Legends, it's a horrendous showcase for Snakeman.
Katakuri isn't very good against Kaido since there's nowhere to stall and suck up damage to enable him to be good. Katakuri also doesn't have very many QCK units to use. Against Kaido he can use Cavendish as a sub to good success. Against Jack he has basically no one, but at least he can stall meagerly there.
And that's where you're wrong. In the ideal bird TM, yes F2P players will be getting points faster (in comparison to themselves that is). Why are they more P2W than F2P? Cause P2W players get to use their absurd point boosters twice. Yes it should be faster for F2P, but it is MUCH faster for P2P. Relatively, it's a lot more P2W.
They get to use them twice? That's your big justification? That's the weakest "reasoning" I've ever heard. You're still competing against the same amount of runs...
It's not more P2W at all.
You can use a friend booster for the first couple dozen levels vs Kaido. You can use a friend booster vs Jack up to over level 150
No one's going to have one up.
That's also the most unrealistic video you could have ever linked. "You can use a friend booster..."
You forgot the important words "if you yourself whale massively and have all of the boosters too".
That's exactly why I said it was P2W?
...what?
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u/FateOfMuffins Doktah Carrot Muffins Jan 14 '19
In what world is it average that with a 69% bird rate you're only having three runs fail to get the bird out of 39? Did you forget to mention something? 69% means, roughly, 1 in 3 runs fail to get the bird. You're calculating that as one to three runs fail to get the bird period.
When did I say I had 3 fail runs? I went 27/39 and got 5M points. I went 36 runs on Nami and got 5M points. I wasn't particularly lucky with Kaido. In fact I went 50/50 in the latter half of the runs. It would've been better if I had the other way around and missed Kaido the first few runs and got him later. I didn't have the main boosters for either.
Something's up with your math, cause according to you this shouldn't be possible, yet that was exactly my experience.
Snakeman does okay against Kaido. Too bad 6+ Cavendish does *better. The much older Legend. Compared to how the TMs usually are for the new Legends, it's a horrendous showcase for Snakeman.
When the enemy boss has 3M HP and your Snakeman team can output 15M at any time, that's all you need. If being just "OKAY" can carry you to level 150+, then I'm sure literally everyone is fine with it (except you for some reason)
They get to use them twice? That's your big justification? That's the weakest "reasoning" I've ever heard. You're still competing against the same amount of runs... It's not more P2W at all.
That's literally the only advantage P2P has over F2P and they literally double it during bird TMs. They earn more than triple the points that of F2P players do vs the boss. Now they can do it twice. In the same run.
In a normal TM, a P2P can earn about twice as many points as a F2P per run. In a bird TM, a P2P can earn about 2.5x as many points, cause they can run it twice.
No one's going to have one up.
That's also the most unrealistic video you could have ever linked. "You can use a friend booster..." You forgot the important words "if you yourself whale massively and have all of the boosters too". That's exactly why I said it was P2W? ...what?
... I literally just said it was P2W. Whale = P2W no????
And the whole point of that was because you said you can't use friend TM boosters cause their CA suck. The video shows you that despite their CA sucking, you can still clear with them as captain up to over level 150.
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Jan 15 '19
When did I say I had 3 fail runs? I went 27/39 and got 5M points. I went 36 runs on Nami and got 5M points. I wasn't particularly lucky with Kaido. In fact I went 50/50 in the latter half of the runs. It would've been better if I had the other way around and missed Kaido the first few runs and got him later. I didn't have the main boosters for either.
Why were you using so many unboosted units on Nami but using boosted ones for Kaido?
How on earth does an effective ~31 runs of Kaido (since you had 12 without the bird, I'm counting those as 4 extra "bird" ones equaling 31 total) equal 36 Nami runs for you? Were you using TM boosters for Kaido?
Something's up with your math, cause according to you this shouldn't be possible, yet that was exactly my experience.
Something's up with your story that you're not telling anyone because you want me to believe 31 (being generous, likely closer to 30) = 36.
When the enemy boss has 3M HP and your Snakeman team can output 15M at any time, that's all you need. If being just "OKAY" can carry you to level 150+, then I'm sure literally everyone is fine with it (except you for some reason)
1.35x. Exciting. An orb boost. Exciting. STR type against a STR enemy. Exciting.
We'll also ignore how Snakeman deals with the bosses arguably less efficiently than lesser-boosted units.
15m? You're using suboptimal points teams for e-peen or something?
Navigation level 150+ is literally meaningless.
That's literally the only advantage P2P has over F2P and they literally double it during bird TMs. They earn more than triple the points that of F2P players do vs the boss. Now they can do it twice. In the same run.
The thing you fail to realize that it's "P2W" no matter what because in either case the F2Per simply can't catch up. I don't think it matters if you miss an inch or a mile so long as you don't beat them.
And the whole point of that was because you said you can't use friend TM boosters cause their CA suck. The video shows you that despite their CA sucking, you can still clear with them as captain up to over level 150.
That video isn't representative of anything though. Also, congratulations, you've listed the first use case in a long time that still isn't practical whatsoever. Please tell me how the 0x ATK, 2.5x Beli Chopper was hauling butt in the last TM and so on.
He also only found that friend captain because he has the captain in question too. No one's leaving those up.
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u/RoseMySweet Lost in a Gambler's Paradise Jan 15 '19
umm stall meagerly on Jack? I took around 100k-140k on just the last 3 stages, either you don't have him, or you do, and don't use him effectively
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u/veritas54 jpn id: 430 358 514 Jan 14 '19
My most wanted legend was Wb/Marco.
Tm reward only gave me Wb. Guess they will send Marco next Tm.