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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1115 Spoiler

Chapter 1115: "Continental Fragments"

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Ch. 1115 Official Release (Mangaplus): 05/27/2024

Ch. 1116 Scan Release: ~05/31/2024 - No break!

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u/Kiboune May 23 '24

...but Law's submarine

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u/thedrq May 23 '24

Probably never went to the floor of the sea.

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u/Transmatrix May 23 '24

Only would need to go 200m down. Don't know if that's a normal submarine depth or not.

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u/DarkFite May 23 '24

Submarines usually descend between 400 and 500 meters on average. So meh he should have seen it, but even if he did, who's to say he would recognize the connection.

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u/Worthyness May 23 '24

it's been a significant amount of time. With how much calamity that goes on in the One Piece world weather wise, the ruins themselves would be torn to pieces and covered by decades of dirt and rock. There'd be ruins though.If you're looking for them

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u/Transmatrix May 23 '24

Agreed. 800 years is a long time in seawater and pretty much only large stone structures would have survived. So, big city centers that might be fairly spread out and maybe very little on the Grand Line which would also reduce possibility of running into an old city.

I wonder if Egghead island is the remains of the Ancient Kingdom. It's the peak of the mountain and the rest of the city is below.

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u/wannabetrapstar888 May 23 '24

its not. in kuma's backstory it was just a basic winter island that vegapunk entirely renovated for his lab purposes, just like punk hazard. i dont think the ancient kingdom exists above the sea anymore. its most likely destroyed or on the seafloor

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u/Transmatrix May 23 '24

That's not what I was saying.

I mean that Egghead is the peak of a mountain that was in the Ancient Kingdom territory. For example: Japan and Mt Fuji. Like if Japan was the Ancient Kingdom and Mt Fuji is Egghead (non-volcanic, of course.)

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u/enpedia May 24 '24

tbf thats in our world Oda can make it less than that for obvious reasons

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u/PerformanceFalse3600 May 24 '24

the manga did not say it was only 200m down, it said the water rose 200m within 100 years, which still leaves the other 800 years left

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u/Kingdarkshadow May 23 '24

Only? The sea floor is 10km

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u/Transmatrix May 23 '24

The sea levels rose by 200 meters. Unless the Ancient Kingdom was building on the bottom of the ocean before the flooding, you'd only need to go down 200 meters before you saw ruins. In fact, you'd need to go down less far assuming they had some tall buildings.

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u/Lajinn5 May 24 '24 edited May 24 '24

200 M rise in a short period would frankly cause apocalyptic levels of destruction. Extreme floods would wipe out tons of structures and places in the initial flooding of the world. This wouldn't be a gradual and soft rise, Oda depicted how much destruction the 1 M rise across the world caused with Lulusa, now imagine that in quick succession. The unexpected Tsunamis alone would likely wipe out most societies.

Sea Water is also de facto one of the most corrosive and eroding things we have around on Earth. Most well preserved fossils and relics in the ocean come from Clay/Mud/Silt deposits that shelter said relics, naturally forming deposits that wouldn't be around to shield these underwater ruins caused by unnatural calamities. 800 years would be an extremely long time for erosion and decay to destroy most things of relevance (Stone structures would erode down a decent bit, metal structures would corrode to near nothing, Wood would break down, Plastics would corrode away gradually, etc). In the current day in OP there would be little of interest to see for anybody who isn't scraping the sea bed (Which would have also had tons of material from erosion and the initial destruction added over time).

Add in the World Government actively supressing any form of Archaeology/Research into the past and killing anybody who tries and it's understandable why most ruins wouldn't be found (Especially since most cities probably weren't sitting at the highest elevations that survived the floods). You also make 200 M sound trivial, when only 4 humans have been recorded free diving past 170 and surviving (With modern tech). For most humans 200 M of depth would be unreachable.

The real question is about the Fishfolk and their lack of knowledge, because they'd realistically be the main ones who would interact with any ruins.

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u/Kingdarkshadow May 23 '24

The sea levels rose by 200 meters in one century. There are still 7 other centuries ahead of the time.

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u/Transmatrix May 23 '24

We have zero evidence that the Ancient Weapons were used between the defeat of Joy Boy and the destruction of Lulusia.

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u/FedorKo91 May 24 '24

Before the use of the Weapon, iceberg said water7 has problem with the rising sea water and the stronger floods

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u/Transmatrix May 24 '24

It seems pretty likely at this point that the same weapon used at Lulusia was also used at Enies Lobby. The proximity could be causing localized effects. Otherwise it wouldn’t just be Water 7. The “recent” 1M rise was worldwide.

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u/Kingdarkshadow May 23 '24

Eh????

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u/Transmatrix May 23 '24

The Ancient Weapons appear to be what caused the sea level rise. Based on what we've heard and seen so far in the story, there is nothing causing the sea to continually rise over time. Other than perhaps Water 7, but that might be a localized effect due to their proximity to Enies Lobby. Regardless, pretty sure that there was sea prior to the 200m rise, so you still wouldn't have to go 10km down to get to the sea floor. I mean, technically you see sea floor just a few feet down when you're at the coast.

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u/Kingdarkshadow May 23 '24

That's just headcanon we literally see the sea floor and how deep the ocean is when the SH go to mermaid island.
The ocean is deeper than 200 meters.

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u/Zer0323 May 23 '24

no one can probably get to it due to the currents revealed while traveling down to fishman island.

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u/Janiverse_Stalice May 23 '24

I doubt that he can see jackshit at a certain sea level. And let's not forget, that he cannot leave the grand line due to the seamonster around it

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u/Switch-Familiar May 24 '24

Well, most of the buried world is less than 200m underwater. Divers can probably see a lot of it. Just saying.

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u/slicer4ever May 24 '24

That was 200m rapidly at the end of the void century, as we've learned the water is still rising even to this day, so it's probably more like 300-400m down now.

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u/Xazhariel Void Month Survivor May 23 '24

We have submarines too and we explored like 5% of the oceans or less

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u/FedorKo91 May 24 '24

nah read about it. the ground itself is pretty good explored with our technology.

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u/carso150 May 24 '24

yeah because we have shit like radar and sonar and even then we actually dont have it fully mapped it, the one piece world is only as technologically advanced as it seems thanks to vegapunk so its very recent advancements

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u/GustavoAlex7789 May 23 '24

Even a submarine that could reach the bottom of the sea would never found a ancient civilization by chance unless they know exactly where to search.

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u/karatous1234 May 23 '24

Doesn't take too far down before light stops existing. Even if the Polar Tang had crazy headlights, they would only see what was directly ahead of them, and even that is assuming they navigate with some kind of viewing window instead of radar.

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u/Wavdec May 24 '24

Even when we going 200m down with current technology, you can’t see much because light doesn’t travel that far and especially with sabody they rely on the light from the Adam tree so there’s definitely meters and meters of unexplored grounds in the ocean that most don’t know about

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u/chucknorris21 May 23 '24

can only go so far because of the water pressure

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u/TacoPi May 23 '24

Less than 200 meters?

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u/chucknorris21 May 23 '24

The one piece earth is much more bigger than our earth so 200 meters could be 1km in our world

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u/ruisen2 May 24 '24

Law's submarine's existence is still a mystery to me, like, who else other than Vegapunk has that kind of tech?

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u/Never_justice May 23 '24

And giants and ancient giants..... they can be as tall as 20 meters or 60 meters, they would have no issue checking the seafloor if only 200 meters

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u/CelioHogane May 23 '24

Oh you mean the guys that are ALSO not allies with the World Goverment?

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u/tokyogodfather2 May 26 '24

Mind. Blown. Makes sooo much sense now. Why the WG and Giants don’t really mix.

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u/Draffut2012 May 23 '24

do they have the knowledge to know where the large landmasses are that they could dive to?

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u/PapanTandaLama May 24 '24

Oh my goodness a plot hole lol

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u/Laser-circus May 24 '24

And the bubble technology...

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u/Hot-Beach2567 May 24 '24

Shit. I feel like oda won’t be able to explain this away.

Same as the monkey boys from Noland who searched the sea floor. Never saw anything either I guess

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u/piper1871 May 26 '24

Many submarines can only go to certain depths. The USS Thresher imploded after it started sinking and went below the depth the submarine could handle. 

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u/Kuro013 May 23 '24

Would be crush by pressure if they went to the sea floor.