r/NewsAndPolitics • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ United States • Oct 12 '24

Social Commentary Jason Hickel explains why a liberated Palestine threatens global capitalism: 'A liberated Palestine means a liberated Middle East. A liberated Middle East means capitalism really faces a crisis[...] & they're unleashing the full violence of their extraordinary power to ensure it doesn't.'

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u/Beddingtonsquire Oct 13 '24

Hickel's work was laughable before this. We knew he was a socialist and Marxist, this shows him up as a conspiracy theorist.

The Middle East is already liberated and capitalism, the right to have economic freedom and own property, is not at risk.

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u/LifesPinata Oct 14 '24

It makes me very happy that tons of people are now aware of the shortcomings of capitalism, with more becoming aware of it with every passing day.

Defending capitalism while talking about the occupation and brutalization of the Middle East is so stupid, idk where to even start

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u/Beddingtonsquire Oct 14 '24

What are you talking about? Capitalism has led to a 70% fall in extreme poverty since just 1990.

Go back just 200 years and consider livings standards, life expectancy, literacy and measures of the quality of life.

Defending capitalism while talking about the occupation and brutalization of the Middle East is so stupid, idk where to even start

Blaming capitalism for the Middle East conflict is an absurd take.

The brutalisation came on October 7th, Israel is defending itself from those who want to drive the Jews into the sea and have said they would to repeat October 7th over and over.

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u/LifesPinata Oct 14 '24

Lmao. The vast majority of eradication of extreme poverty came from the USSR and PRC, with the latter lifting out 600m people out of extreme poverty.

The brutalization of the ME from Western powers through Israel started DECADES ago. October 7th was what you get when you foster extremists in the largest open air prison in the world.

Jewish people and Zionists are not the same, the same way Germans and Nazis are not the same.

I'm done arguing with you. Change and grow as a person.

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u/Beddingtonsquire Oct 14 '24

Lmao. The vast majority of eradication of extreme poverty came from the USSR and PRC, with the latter lifting out 600m people out of extreme poverty.

It hasn't been eradicated, about 9% of people still live in extreme poverty, including in countries like China. It didn't happen in the USSR so much but it did happen in China when they pursued economic reforms that move the country towards capitalism and away from collectivism.

The brutalization of the ME from Western powers through Israel started DECADES ago.

What is your understanding of history!? First, there's been conflict to and from the area for millennia. But no, it wasn't started through Israel decades ago.

October 7th was what you get when you foster extremists in the largest open air prison in the world.

Do you think October 7th was justified!? It wasn't a prison, nor anything close to it. But look at Gaza now, that is the tragic result of the response to October 7th.

Jewish people and Zionists are not the same, the same way Germans and Nazis are not the same.

Do you think Jews are entitled to self-determination?

I'm done arguing with you. Change and grow as a person.

You clearly need to learn about the world, one day you will grow out of such childish and simplistic, not to mention uninformed views.