r/NarutoBlazing • u/Keepo102 Hiraishin: Jiku Shippu Senko Rennodan Zeroshiki! • Sep 23 '17
Technical One Piece Treasure Cruise needs help
Hello everyone! There has been a problem in OPTC's GLB state nowadays. In the most recent sugofest (OPTC's version of BlazingFest), a person got the data for the boosted units and what were the rates. The rates were something that showed something scummy... There is even another thread that even supports these claims.
The threads basically imply that Bamco is messing around with the rates of individual units and stuff. What this thread tries to do is to raise the awareness of it. That's all and thank you all to those who will help.
Edit: Just a bit of wording.
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Sep 23 '17
Damn after seeing those rates and playing a few other gacha games in the past, you can appreciate some of the Blazing banners especially the guaranteed ones.
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Sep 23 '17
To be fair, in optc the 5 star units are almost always amazing. So even though the legend rate is lower, the chance of pulling something useful is still higher than blazing
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u/Gear4Vegito Sep 23 '17
Legends on OPTC are better than Blazing Units in Naruto. The rates should be lower for them just not that low.
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u/inspect0r6 Sep 24 '17
Debatable. Legends still need other units, while there are things in blazing that basically solo content.
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u/Subarachii12 Sep 23 '17
Exactly what I was thinking, the only problem with that is, will Bamco keep making guaranteed banners forever...
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u/Offthewall97 DON'T GET IN MY WAYYYYYYY™ Sep 23 '17
Spread the word guys; saying nothing is the same as accepting it!
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Sep 23 '17
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u/Keepo102 Hiraishin: Jiku Shippu Senko Rennodan Zeroshiki! Sep 23 '17
It's a scumbag move for sure. They're misleading the players by such a big margin it's absurd.
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u/unknownt59 Sep 24 '17
It's a scummy move but I dont want to put hate on the company that brings us these amazing games. Also they do a lot of things right. Still, sometimes its like they turn their brains off for a second and dont know what PR is.
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u/FF_OompaLoompa Sep 23 '17
Yeah, this is nothing new. Bamco left a banner up on one piece thousand storm that offered 0% chance of obtaining the new Mihawk SA at the time.... People spent tons of $$. How did Bamco respond... Nothing.. No compensation... Just pretended like nothing happened... Killed off a ton player base in the early state of the game.. Things have gotten better but I'll never forget that chit.
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u/FatTrate IZANAMI MIA Sep 24 '17
I remember saving up a shit ton of gems for the ace banner and I got my ass shafted, only getting the 4 star SA and a bunch of shitty 5 star SA for the old straw hats. I rage uninstalled after that.
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u/FF_OompaLoompa Sep 24 '17
They've improved the game quite a bit since then if you want to give it another go. Unlimited stamina has been implemented with the game being complete overhauled as well. Plus, they give free rainbow coins every day plus with the new event I think you get something close to 50-100 rc for just completing begginners quest. Plus they are giving away free gold ace SA right now. But shame on me for promoting a Bamco game after I just talked chit about them Hahah.
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u/Shuazilla Sep 23 '17
I remember this. And was exactly why I stopped playing. That and the shitty lag lol
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u/SucessorHina Sep 23 '17 edited Sep 24 '17
Not trying anything but i was aware of this since last year when i stopped playing OP Treasure Cruise, i did some data collection and i warned you people on the sub that you where being deceived, all that i got was "you have no proofs", "1000 pulls are nothing" and "you are full of salt i got the legend with a single".
seems like i was indeed right, of course OPTC its pretty scummy it always been, they boost units that they don't advertise all the time, it always happened I'm amazed that you people just noticed it now, Blue Legend slasher, released on a banner that boost strikers and reds, so the individual rate up for the unit get so low that it get reduced to less than 1%.
yeah i knew that, i helped stopping playing the game, and OPTC its not the only one that does this, but i will not go deep into this.
best of luck for you guys.
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u/pitanger Sep 23 '17
As the author of one of these topics and also an ex mod from the naruto blazing community, I'm sorry. I also know a lot of other people got downvoted when they tried to make similar topics, I myself was downvoted countless times before this, but this time, with proofs, the post actually got upvoted, at last. Also, just to say it, it was even proved that actually, striker booster or any other type of boost didn't affter legend pulls at all. Yes, we were all shocked.
Sorry again for the downvotes dude.
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u/SucessorHina Sep 24 '17
no problem, its just that you people should read the threads that people post, every data gathering on those things are important, but keep up and good luck
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u/sontaj Sep 24 '17
The folks over at OPTC are uh... pretty downvote happy when it comes to things they don't agree with. Speaking ill of Global gets you downvoted rapidly, despite it being the blatantly and objectively inferior version.
Sorry to hear that everyone ignored your warnings. This sort of information needs to be out there. Here's hoping things improve, both in the game and on the sub.
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u/ItsCheeseTime Sep 23 '17
Edit4: iOS Inquiry & Android Inquiry to spam their inbox.
Edit5: Since I've been asked to make a template for the inquiry, here is one (once send you can simply click on each field and repick every of your input, so you don't even have to copy and paste it over and over again) :
Email adress: take either a junk one or a spare one
Type of inquiry: Opinion/ Request
Put a 1 (it doesn't matter, it's only as a filler) or so in every field with a star, except in Question
Question: The rates on global are worse than what you try to make us believe. We've gathered data that proves that not only you're lying about the rates, but that you take a certain unknown player variable that determines what the player gets from the pulls, thus punishing active and paying players with less than less active and more casual players. Enough proof has be gathered which is strenghtening our assumption. We have to believe, until you prove us wrong by being as transparent as you're on japan, that the rates you claim to offer are simply wrong. We simply have no transparency and based on our gathered data there is no reason to believe you as a company anymore, thus we lost our faith in you as an honest company. We feel like we're taking advantage of. We as a community expect your statement.
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u/lava_lizard Sep 23 '17
Tl dr; version: The more you play OPTC Global, & the more you spend, the less likely you are to get legend/6* units,.
This is something we have recently discovered - we need help getting bamco's attention, please see far better written posts than mine to see how you can help.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give us
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u/Trueyes Sep 23 '17
Please help support this movement and try if you can to bring it to public by either:
upvoting the numerous posts(Dokkan, Naruto Blazing, Optc, rgaming).
post comments of this injustice on the OPTC Facebook Page
submit an Inquiry
Bad Ratings
Post Inquiry
Contact Youtubers
We thank you for your support and I believe regardless of any game we play, we are not Dokkan players, Naruto Blazing Players, OPTC players. We are consumers all united against the Banner of injustice.
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u/Enderhero90 Sep 23 '17
How can they ban people for modding when they are literally breaking the law?
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u/Subarachii12 Sep 23 '17
Lmao right?! That's like a serial killer punishing someone for petty theft.
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u/Keepo102 Hiraishin: Jiku Shippu Senko Rennodan Zeroshiki! Sep 23 '17
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u/forestofbroccoli Sep 23 '17
When one fandom calls for help the others must answer! Upvoted the threads you linked to.
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u/Alex919672 Sep 23 '17
Thanks for the info. As a former optc player I hope they fix this. And I am gonna be more sceptical and on the lookout for some shady s*** in blazing.
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Sep 23 '17
Such bad rates on pulls recently it’s insane...I’m all for them making money, but when we give u our money hook us up, don’t dick us to make more, that’s bad customer service if Ive ever heard it
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u/newms88 Sep 24 '17
Finally actual hard proof of scummy behavior in gacha games rather than pointless speculation. Need them to have actual consequences for this so that it doesn't happen here or in other games.
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u/Deku19 Sep 23 '17
Can this be reported?
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u/Keepo102 Hiraishin: Jiku Shippu Senko Rennodan Zeroshiki! Sep 23 '17
To that, I don't know. There are laws in Japan which prohibit this from happening IIRC but for GLB, I just don't know. I'm sorry ;-;.
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u/Deku19 Sep 23 '17
I think that this would be a huge scandal if this actually got reported. I'm not sure if it's illegal to datamine the game for the rates, but if you sent something like this to a news channel and gave them a serious report that was 2 pages long they would be intrigued. If it got onto the news then it would get recognition and then maybe something could happen. This is probably unrealistic,but never say never. Can this also become a class action lawsuit.
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u/Burnyalove Worse than free Gengetsu Sep 23 '17
I'm not sure if it's illegal to datamine the game for the rates
Yes, it is.
Can this also become a class action lawsuit.
The dataminer will be the first one to get sued. Plus, there is no evidence of them messing with individual rates. That is just a speculation.
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u/forestofbroccoli Sep 23 '17
MSM won't care about gatcha game fraud. Maybe some smaller online publications that have a lot of gamer readers though. Getting youtube BNFs to speak out probably couldn't hurt either, because there's always a chance a video could go viral.
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u/focalprism Sep 23 '17
Soooo...do you also think the age old adage that gacha YouTubers get special treatment rates being gasp possible? I mean it always made sense but was also seen as "conspiracy theory".
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u/LuckyMer Your already dead Sep 23 '17
These rates are taken from ingame they aren't speculation they are fact
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u/focalprism Sep 23 '17
I was referring to the youtubers getting better rates as the conspiracy theory. I've always felt like all around general rates had more to do than simple rng. But gacha games giving certain rates to certain ids (the youtubers) has always seemed at least plausible considering how shitty and greedy 100% of all corporations are
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u/Kohakuzuma SHANAAAAARROOO!! Sep 23 '17
Inb4 the same thing is happening on Blazing.