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Ну тоже самое сразу обвинять рф. Слишком странное поведение самолета, рф подбила его, при этом самолет пролетел еще 500 км на другую сторону моря и заходил на посадку обычную вместо того чтобы намного раньше сесть аварийно? Разве после того как ПВО отработало по самолету такое возможно? Не с автомата же обстреляли самолет.
Let's not jump to conclusions the link is from a Ukrainian account, yes the plane was obviously in distress but there is no proof of a drone attack accidental or not, it is very likely the issue started within the plane, let's not point fingers
Videos show Ukraine was performing drone attacks on Russian military targets in the region around the time the plane went down.
Videos taken onboard the plane before the crash show pieces of the plane having been pierced by small objects, including an engine and a safety vest.
Initial speculation when all was still assumed an accident suggested malfunctioning hydrolics. Videos from after the crash show more damage from small objects having pierced the hull in a place where they could have damaged the hydraulics.
The black box revealed that the crew felt the plane hitting something (or being hit). They suspected a birdstrike, but it is not unlikely that that is what they mistook the shrapnel of an anti-aircraft weapon for.
There are pictures of the shrapnel patterns and video from inside the cabin of people bleeding, narrated and explained by the passengers as it happened.
Maybe wait at least some time before accusing anyone though?
Because that looks less like a modern AA work and more like someone just used good ole Bofors gun on it, which I doubt is the case.
I heard the Embraer group will be involved so the final(and maybe preliminary) reports likely will be relatively free of bias.
I literally just suggested that we should wait for actual experts to say their piece, and not arrive to them ourselves.
If it is really Russian AA I will take an L, but none of the shot down Airliners in modern times have been this airworthy after a hit from a missile.
If this was the first time in the Russian-Ukranian war that Russians were accused of shooting down a commercial airliner I could understand your scepticism, but you and me everyone reading this know very well that it is not...
They’re the absolute opposite of what you’re suggesting and are talking against people with no qualifications making claims they have no way to verify.
The plane clearly has crashed onto rocky terrain. Those "shrapnel" holes could be just holes from the impact with stones. A real shrapnel would have left a bigger damage to the fuselage
There is video taken by a passenger while the plane was still in the air showing holes, including holes through their life vest and in fact a hole through a passenger.
I didn't look at it close enough yet but as I said let's not point fingers obviously something happened beyond plane issues let's wait and see what comes of this
Russians did this. Same way they did the Malaysian boeing over Donbas years ago. It was them all along. I don’t understand how much longer this fascists can keep getting away with shit like this
Sorry for the off topic:
They got too much government influence, which makes some people skeptical about this media source. Like if the government would like to mask some information, then Tengrinews would probably rewrite the story in their favor. But it's definitely the most viewed news website in Kazakhstan, so that's what you get in not very press free country
This guy is Ukrainian his name is Denys Davydov he is a Boeing Pilot, of course he's going to say Russia shot this plane down, he also post fake videos of The conflict in Ukraine not a reliable source of information.
А что тут такого? В Кремле сослались на «стаю птиц». Неудивительно что и нашему правительству тоже велели замять дело и выставить все ровно так же но этот чел успел заснять все на телефон и выложить в сеть. Там на видео явные пулевые отверстия которые и пытались скрыть
The plane crashed not because of a flock of birds, but because of an explosion that caused the plane to lose control. The cause of the explosion is currently believed to be an oxygen tank. There are no traces of direct fire on the plane.
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u/GreenShen98 Azerbaijan 2d ago
Thank you to the beautiful Kazakh people