r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

Celebration Happy Chanukah! Show me your chanukiah 🕎

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This first candle was lit to honour the memory of Dr Adnan Al-Bursh 🇵🇸❤️

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u/BolesCW Mizrahi 2d ago

can people please learn the proper placement of the lights? it's right to left, not left to right, and not starting in the middle. on each subsequent night, a new light is placed to the left of the first light. lighting goes from left to right, starting from the newest light to the oldest. this is straight from the Shulhan Arukh, cited in the Ben Ish Hai.

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u/Ok-Average3876 2d ago

Hashem doesn't give a monkeys, Boles. You do you but in my house, it really doesn't matter. The candle is lit. It is Chanukah and I send you love and blessings.

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u/uu_xx_me Ashkenazi 2d ago

yikes friend, it’s possible to educate without shaming. jews can choose to engage with judaism to whatever degree and in whatever ways make them feel connected to their ancestry. it sounds like you have great knowledge to share! and, someone who doesn’t have that same knowledge or prioritize the specific details you do isn’t less of a jew

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u/Ok-Average3876 1d ago

We have bigger fish to fry than where the candles go on the menorah. I understand what you're saying and it goes without saying that I didn't say anything with the intention of offending or upsetting you.

Like many, I'm cut off from my Jewish community because they're a bunch of filthy Zionists. So yeah, I am having to figure it out as I go along with a gentile husband and a 2 year old. I ask that you give some grace for those that don't have the knowledge/understanding/resources as you.

I am a patrilineal Jew btw, just to stir the pot further. With two generations of defectors above me. So it is my great grandfather to whom I owe my identity. I don't think it's helpful to try police people and then call it disrespect. Feels like you're trying to deliberately misunderstand the intention of the message. Which is... happy Chanukah !

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u/BolesCW Mizrahi 1d ago

Here's the source material, presuming that you want to learn something about how Jews actually practice our rituals. https://www.sefaria.org/Shulchan_Arukh%2C_Orach_Chayim.670.1?lang=bi

Specifically Simanim 670 through 684.

If your interrupted/severed lineage is Ashkenazi, then you'll want the glosses from this (since I'm not, I don't know where he discusses Hanukkah, but if you're interested I'm sure you'll find it). https://www.sefaria.org/Kitzur_Shulchan_Arukh?tab=versions

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u/conscience_journey Jewish Anti-Zionist 1d ago

Disagree respectfully, do not shame. This is a place for Jews with many different traditions and connections to their identity.

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u/Time_Waister_137 Reconstructionist 1d ago

Left to right versus right to left ? I suggest if you don’t like the candle arrangement of someone’s menorah, just stand behind the menorah and you all will be happy again…

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u/BolesCW Mizrahi 1d ago

It's not a question of liking it or not, which is subjective. It's a question of whether or not the person is adhering to the tradition, which is objective.

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u/Time_Waister_137 Reconstructionist 1d ago

I guess we each have a different… er, may I say … perspective?

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u/BolesCW Mizrahi 1d ago

I'm not familiar with Reconstructionism; does everyone in your denomination have the same level of indifference to the Shulhan Arukh?

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u/Time_Waister_137 Reconstructionist 7h ago

I certainly cannot speak for Reconstructing Judaism. But I am sure there is no attempt to disrespect the great masterwork of the 16th century. To get a better idea, I wish you would take a look at their official web site, reconstructingjudaism.org. I believe the major attempt is to provide a service for the evolving jewish civilization. As an example of what they are doing, please take a look at their website: ritualwell.org