r/JewsOfConscience 10d ago

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

Please remember to pick an appropriate user-flair in order to participate! Thanks!

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u/valonianfool Anti-Zionist 6d ago

I still feel harrowed from an event that happened months ago, when I made the mistake of trying to debate a zionist after seeing a post listing supposed examples of hypocrisy from the pro-Palestinian movement.

The OP attacked and insulted me, but what really caused me distress is because they were a hypocritical ass who while claiming to stand in solidarity with indigenous people, support the dispossession and displacement of Palestinians, and promote racist, colonialist narratives.

After I brought up how fellahin (Palestinian subsistence farmers) have cultivated the land for centuries they called me "gross" for implying that "indigenous status can be obtained through farming" and how European farmers are still colonists despite farming the land. They claim that the fellahin and all arabs in Israel are "colonizers".

They called me an "antisemite" because I pointed out that for most parts of history during muslim rule, jewish life was peaceful and how the one massacre against jews they brought up in the post-the Hebron massacre-was motivated in part by Palestinian farmers becoming disenfranchised because of land sales to the JNF, claiming I'm somehow "excusing anti-jewish oppression".

However, their stance is hypocritical: while acknowledging it was unfair for the palestinian farmers who became landless and impoverished, they excuse it with "it was normal practice at the time" for absentee landlords to rent out and sell land, and how the landlords who sold land to the settlers were landlords in neighboring countries.

So according to them, injustice towards jews can never be excused or viewed in context to give a more nuanced picture, but injustice towards Palestinians is excusable.

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u/Artistic-Vanilla-899 Non-Jewish Ally 3d ago

A living example of Palestinian belonging to the land is the olive tree. That's why the Israeli state feels a need to destroy it. Its cultural genocide or memoricide, rewriting history and people from it.