What is the rationale for a flag for non-Zionist Jews? Nothing such existed prior to Zionism and their adoption of a flag for the state of Israel. Is this not entirely contradictory? However, I do understand in the modern age, flags are now being used in more varied ways such as the pride flag. I'm still not clear what this is seeking to achieve
Likewise... flags are associated with nations & nationalism, not faiths or even shared ancestries... Renouncing Zionism means renouncing the idea that Jewish people are a nation, so why a flag?
Symbology by itself is fine and occurs in religions, shared cultures and bloodlines.
There are certainly well-known flags associated with things other than nations and nationalism. I'm also confused by the idea that renouncing Zionism means renouncing the idea that Jewish people are a nation. Can Jewish people not be considered a "nation", not in the nation-state sense, but in the sense of a group with a shared identity, without the idea of Zionism?
Edit: I forgot that I wanted to mention the Romani flag, which is a great example of a flag that represents an ethnic group/shared culture but not a nation-state.
the red and black of anarchist communists is another example. ancoms all around the world reject the idea of a nation-state but have rallied around the red and black for the better part of a century, at the very least
A nation is much more than a group with a shared identity, even if it doesn't control a specific piece of land with lines drawn on a map. It has a shared structure of governance. Women have a shared gender identity, we don't think of ourselves as the female nation. More examples of groups who share identities that we don't think of as nations include redheads, people with disabilities, parents...
But you know what, LGBTQ+ people are a great example of an identity prominently represented by a flag that has helped people express support without thinking of themselves as a nation, so I do stand corrected about the association between flags and nations.
To be fair, it seems like many Jews consider themselves a nation, and that's not referring to the state of Israel. I can see why people would also feel differently.
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u/awolf_alone Anti-Zionist 14d ago
What is the rationale for a flag for non-Zionist Jews? Nothing such existed prior to Zionism and their adoption of a flag for the state of Israel. Is this not entirely contradictory? However, I do understand in the modern age, flags are now being used in more varied ways such as the pride flag. I'm still not clear what this is seeking to achieve