Blue and white are ancient colors, that's obvious. I just arranged them in a way that was less politically-loaded.
The Menorah is a more ancient symbol than the magen david, so I think it would be a more authentic symbol. It's lit to symbolize the eternal flame of Jewish tradition, however you choose to define that.
The blacked-out magen david symbolizes mourning for the Jewish martyrs of the past, present, and future. Six points on the star for the six million Holocaust victims. I cribbed this idea from the flag of the Cherokee Nation
Love it. Maybe have the Menorah either with six candles lit (for 6M) or just the shamash, as a representation of the ongoing, unfinished story of Judaism.
Nothing wrong with Israeli flag. But it's not a "Jewish flag" as such. It's the flag of Israel. Yes zionist.
It is the flag of a country not exactly a "Jewish flag" but it does have star of david of course.
I like Israeli flag. It's beautiful
Your orthodox? I'm a Christian from Ramallah.
For all its flaws like many nations I still now have Love for the state of Israel as in the country. I have had enough of Hatred in all honesty and I have been raised around it my whole life. I don't like it. The worst thing is the Hate of Jews. I could understand being critical of the govt and various policy But absolutely don't understand Hatred of Jews in general or even Israel in general.
It doesn't help Palestinians. The islamist extremist ideogly. It is like Facism in itself and scares me. It not only brings harm to Israelis But invites harm back to my people.
I think I will maybe be banned from this subreddit but that is ok. I honestly Try explain as a Palestinian that we don't all 100% share same views. I used to have different views but I was in many cases wrong. Not everything but a lot.
I'm intrigued by this subreddit as many of the things i was raised to believe by society in general as my parents honestly didn't share all the same views.
I think in my opinion it's no necessary to be against Israel as a country full stop or zionism. I have learnt HUGE amount and have looked into things in detail and now I do love Israel. It doesn't mean I love all about it. Also I have Extended family & Friends who live in Israel 😆🤣 so I can't hate nor wish harm.
Sounds like a propaganda account/bot to me, and based on your post history and the fact that you just popped up less than a year ago and 99% of your comments are classic hasbara talking points. This is a space for Jews who are disillusioned with Zionism precisely because we’ve seen the harm it’s caused us and how it has sucked the souls of our people. Many of us have been to Israel/Palestine and witnessed the occupation and fascism with our own eyes. I’ll agree that there is unnecessary hate for Israelis because as much as I disagree with many of them and find their ultranationalism repulsive I believe every human being deserves to live safely and equitably. That, however, cannot happen to Palestinians or Israelis as long as the apartheid state of Israel exists. I highly highly doubt you are actually a Palestinian from Ramallah but if you are I feel sad for you. Go take your propaganda elsewhere
No. Excuse me I had a long while ago another account with my name & my birth year. I lost that account. I very very rarely used this social media as I used FB, Instagram and Twitter and now I use one called Also Telgran.
I got another account (this one) and I was given the random name. I want to change but can't seem too.
I want to say I am very much surprised by how I'm being treated! I truly in my heart believed of all people you would be happy to talk but I'm getting much abuse or ignoring or dismissal.
I really don't understand. I'm not saying anything that bad. I'm saying incredibly good things. I want to live with or next to Israel in co existence. That is my belief. As a Christian I and my patents and much of my family believe. It will take both sides and both of us will not Dissappear. I simply to not hate israel. I used to. It's a good thing I don't.
You I think now have been conditioned to just one way of thinking and anything that very small goes away from that thinking is treated bad. It wasn't easy for me to change my thinking but it is absolutely necessary for any chance of peace.
Because Israelis aren't going to Dissappear
Palestinians aren't going to Dissappear
Both sides aren't going to just Dissappear
To hate or try say we must attack israel or harm civilians or any of this I absolutely absolutely 100% do not agree with. Even peace activists like me were killed by hamas in israel . It achieved nothing for my people but an obvious response. Which hamas knew. None of that is propaganda. They did truly horrible things. I seen the worst on Oct 7th and a few days after as I was at my parents home then and seen live and soon after. Absolutely NO way is supporting such ideas good for us. I am shockd that I need to explain this.
I love the Jewish people and Israel now. Your a people of light. You also brought us our faith. You can believe whatever you like and that's ok. Many Palestinians still hate Israel but we were raised in that environment. It was to blame everything that happens on israel. Trying to justify atrictues by religious extremists and then when Israel would respond blame solely Israel. It is no way so simple. I am happy I got out of that way of thinking because we both 100% belong on the land and we as I said both will be here in 1, 2, 10, 50, 200 years. I can't put into words here how much I got wrong though.
I find it incredible saddening that you instant to call me Israel propaganda. And you have got it very wrong. I no longer want conflict. It's caused us huge suffering.
No Palestinian can have even a slightly different perspective without me being called this. You feel sad for me?? I work with isrseli peace activists whom come to my community!!!! I can't believe you say such things.
Israel israelis isn't going to Dissappear
Palestinians isn't going to Dissappear
Trying to do so will ALWAYS ALWAYS cause us much suffering and it absolutely isn't at all black and white
I said not one thing that is propaganda and I honestly feel saddened that you have fell so much into a black white reasoning that you can't even accept a Palestinian who wants peace!! Not hamas. I'm Christian. I don't haye israel. Not all Palestinians hate israel. It doesn't mean I like Ben gvir or those people.
You honestly honestly are very wring in what you say. I say I have family in Israel who live good lives and this is maybe 20th tome i been called traitor or liar or not Palestinian or other things bcos i said my extended family have good lives which they do. It isn't propaganda to say that. Am I supposed to say they all live in misery?
Just because you have strong beliefs absolutely does not mean all you think is ok or right. I'm no longer anti zionist. Not bcos I love war obviously or I love the govt But bcos I know regonise israel as a country and a people bcos even my own relatives are there. It doesn't mean by way that I agree with everything israel does but I no longer have hatred. And absolutely 100% much of the suffering and hardships that come are because of bad things our own leaders do. I don't see how anything I say is bad.
Pop up year ago bcos I honestly never used to use Reddit often. I used other social media.
I wanted to talk to Jewush groups including ones like this. . Many people I know also don't hate zionosm or israel. I have meet many different Israeli zionists who not even like netenyahu.
We had events where they would come to both Ramallah & Hebron and we would discuss things. I meet a man named Rudy Rochman. I don't agree with all he says But I still think he is a good soul in all honesty. Also I meet all other types. You don't have to hate Israel as a country to help Palestinians. It's truly a wrong view
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