r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

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u/TailorBird69 Anti-Zionist Ally 17d ago

After the horrific attack, killing, and hostage taking of Jews in Israel by Hamas, and from the day war on the Palestinians began, any discussion of the war crimes committed by Israel and the collective punishment of men, women and children, was met with the argument that that they are all used as "human shield" as if it is a thing on its own. Do those living in Israel and also some Jews in the diaspora, not feel the same shock and sadness at the suffering of the people, chased here and there away from their homes, made to starve, die, their children orphaned, bleeding or burning to death? Is it the daily indoctrination of "they hate us" that has made them so inured to suffering that they do not see them as human anymore?
If this question is offensive I apologize, but my intention is to only understand.

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u/bassman81 Jewish Anti-Zionist 16d ago

i think in general palestinians have been dehumanized to israelis/the jewish diaspora.

Some people see them as less than human ("we are fighting human animals"-Gallant)
or literally want them wiped out (“you must remember what Amalek has done to you"-netanyahu's reference to a biblical passage that says "Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camels and asses")
or think they aren't being massacred (paliwood conspiracy)
some people just can't accept what is actually happening so they have to justify some of it and deny other parts

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u/TailorBird69 Anti-Zionist Ally 16d ago

Thank you for the response. Neither state of being can be healthy. If one is indoctrinated to think of oneself as eternal victim and the other as always the antisemite, all others can also be viewed as not quite human, not just Palestinians. This can manifest in behavior and in relationships.