Yet all that commenter had to do is check the sidebar to see there was no editor aprovial, as it explains:
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The author's name is in the archive link that someone shared, he has a ton of other blog posts that are rambling and poorly written with a very strange combination of left and right ideologies
Do you think he’s just trolling as a kind of cryptic critique? Like it was done in irony?!?!??? I can’t possibly imagine someone would be this dumb????
Genuinely, how do Zionist Jews see what Israel is doing to the Palestinians and not connect that to what the Nazis did to their grandparents? Didn’t Albert Einstein say that Israel reminded him of Nazi Germany? He was a genius for sure, but you certainly don’t need to be a genius to make that connection
from their perspective, the palestinians started it and want to kill them 24/7 so their only way of life is to kill them first. they don’t see the similarities because from the israeli pov the situation is completely different… they will never understand how it looks from above.
Because it's always different when it's you- if someone punches me in the face, they're a lunatic who assaulted me for no reason, but if I punch someone in the face I'm just standing up for myself.
Saying it out loud, knowing that their "moderate" allies will just dismiss it as "didn't happen" or "Hamas conspiracy", even when it's right in front of their faces.
Or: just a few battles and Israel would never actually ethnically cleanse Gaza for the purposes of settlement, which they definitely don’t agree with. When you say that’s exactly what the far right is doing they brush it off as “never gonna happen”. It’s as if they are completely disconnected from the realities of the current settler movement. They’ll condemn it in the abstract but I have no faith they’d actually get up and protest when it down happen.
This is so, so weird. It’s like some kind of bizarre Mossad psy-op; daring liberal democracies to call them fascists, just so they can retort that their criticism is antisemitic.
What's horrible is that's rendering the charge of antisemitism basically meaningless. That will no doubt lead to more actual and deeper antisemitism worldwide.
Apparently, it is not only OK, but prevailing wisdom among much of Israeli society. But also note that one of the leading Israeli English language media outlets is promoting Judeo-Nazism on its website. That tells you the tenor of the times there.
It is rhetoric like this which has, over time, transformed me from a liberal Zionist to an anti-Zionist.
It's a very long recitation of statistics held together by a drifting and wandering theme. Reads like a paper a junior college student would write after dropping a tab of bad acid.
TBH, this is a TOI blog, not really part of the official publication. Granted, you have to be "allowed" to post there, but it doesn't have editorial oversight before publishing as far as I know.
“Lebensraum” is German for “living space” and it was the reason that Adolf Hitler gave for invading Poland.
Their justification for invading Poland was that Germany had a higher population and needed more land and that Poland was basically its backyard, so it was perfectly acceptable for them to invade Poland and expel or wipe out the Poles to have room fo the superior Germans.
Lebensraum is the philosophy that led to the Holocaust.
It reminds me of an interview with a settler in the West Bank. He was complaining that he didn’t have enough roaming room for his family which is why they needed to take more land. To feel comfortable.
German concept of expansionism and Völkisch nationalism, the philosophy and policies of which were common to German politics from the 1890s to the 1940s. First popularized around 1901, Lebensraum became a geopolitical goal of Imperial Germany in World War I (1914–1918), as the core element of the Septemberprogramm of territorial expansion. The most extreme form of this ideology was supported by the Nazi Party and Nazi Germany. Lebensraum was a leading motivation of Nazi Germany to initiate World War II, and it would continue this policy until the end of the conflict.
Wait—I’m pretty sure it’s only “real” in the sense that a user posted it on the newspaper’s open forum.
It was taken down once editors saw it (despite their disclaimer noting that anyone can post in the forum and that “views expressed yadda yadda …”)
u/TojFun nailed it in an earlier comment: “I would be sceptical about this. Not that it’s not true, they definitely think that. …
This has got to be the work of someone who’s trying to make them look bad (because they are bad).”
[Me again] What’s remarkable is that it’s so close to Israel’s actual full-on Nazi behavior that it got past a vast majority of commenters here. And this is not a naive bunch.
Who cares if Muslims are victims of genocide and have their land stolen from them? They deserve it anyways for being subhuman, barbarians. /s
If this makes you uncomfortable, it should, but plenty of people both conservative and liberal are fine with this way of thinking as long as it’s not said out loud. Muslims have been dehumanized for a long time and that is why this is okay.
I would be sceptical about this. Not that it’s not true, they definitely think that, but they would never say it that way. They would never use this word.
This has got to be the work of someone who’s trying to make them look bad (because they are bad). Whoever they may be or how they did it, I appreciate their work.
Yeah he curiously selectively ignores the idea of the livability of a land space as he talks about all these other countries. I love when people try to use math to make a point, then pretend they don’t know how math works.
And you can clearly see here that it was a blog post (look at the URL). The main site took it down almost immediately. This is probably the works of someone who want them to look bad.
Again, they obviously do actually think that, just not in these exact terms.
So the author of the blog is Dan Ehrlich, he’s a London based journalist. He’s got many other posts on the blog. He’s kinda all over the place, seems to recognize in one piece that the ICC warrants are issues because they’ve committed war crimes, not because of antisemitism, but also:
“I personally am not a supporter of the Palestinian cause. From day one in 1948 until the present, the Arab populations of Gaza and Lebanon have helped set up the terrorist infrastructures that have been battling Israel for decades. And, when they get the kishkas knocked out of them, they cry foul.
Yet, now Israel is crying foul over the charges against Bibi and Gallant. To dismiss this as evidence of blatant anti-Semitism on the court’s part is being blind to the scale of death and destruction in Gaza and now Lebanon. It’s also turning a blind eye to the crusade of one man who will do almost anything to appease the radical coalition keeping him in power.”
It does seem like the way he’s using it is possibly more ‘calling it what it is’
I found an old Haaretz article that uses the same term, but also seems the writer might be more using the term critically vs ‘hey this is a good idea’
As I wrote earlier, this is a blog post, it is not the official site, which took it down almost immediately.
I know the Israeli narrative to my core, so believe me when I say that they would never use these words explicitly. They try to distance themselves as far away as possible from the Nazis, so they would never use language that is specific to Nazis and the holocaust. They have no problem using other fascists’ rhetoric though.
We need to be aware of fake news, especially when they support/affirm our narrative since it is the easiest way Zionists have to dismiss us.
Seems weird since half a million fled Israel after 7 October. Many businesses left or out of business, crops need workers ... it just doesn't add up unless they believe people will return. I sort of that since Israel's rep is down the toilet and the international community considers it a rogue/pariah entity. Furthermore, many young Jews are seeing through the propaganda/hasbara and want nothing to do with this genocidal entity.
Perhaps it is a psyop like another said here.
I said something about this in a local liberal Jewish community a few years back and have been getting judged for my statement ever since… (well until Lebanon) It’s just so obvious now with all the damn IDF soldiers walking around wearing those “greater Israel” patches it’s just so in your face.
What percent do you think wear the patch? Another question that just popped up for me: do think in the next decades we’ll see Zionist memorabilia collectors? I feel like the patch would fit right in.
I’m not sure on the percentage but I know it’s fairly common, who are the orange guys that have youth group called “the hilltop youth” like cmon bro “Hitler youth”… this fucking shit is insane this shit is so out in the open.
I don’t understand how any people of any Jewish descent/ancestry could be saying shit like this.
Try to have grace. Any human can be taught to hate if they are raised in certain environments. Try to separate the Israelis societal psyche from the ability of individual Israelis to recognize the propaganda and break through. There’s a lot of fear in propaganda. For a lot of Israelis they are taught to be constantly afraid of non Jews and are taught about endless massacres. No wonder they are so emotional and afraid right now. To them, they feel as if a second Holocaust is around the corner.
These Zionists sound like Himmler in his Posen speeches
“what about the women and children? – I decided to find a clear solution to this problem too. I did not consider myself justified to exterminate the men…and allow the avengers of our sons and grandsons in the form of their children to grow up. The difficult decision had to be made to have this people disappear from the earth.“
What? At first I thought the note was from a website who holds Israel accountable for their hidden agenda just to later learn they themselves published it. It seems they're so indoctrinated that they don't realize how back it looks to the reader.
Wait… wasn’t Lebensraum a Nazi effort that saw Nazi soldiers paired up with “Aryan” women for the sole purpose of creating a new generation of racially pure children?
No, Lebensraum is what it sounds like - "living room." It was part of German nationalism, but it became a foundation of Hitler's ideology to colonize territory in Europe to be a buffer against the spread of Bolshevism and Jewishness (which was synonymous for him), and for space for Aryans to live while displacing the untermenschen who lived there and following what he thought was the natural order. There's also the element of making the empire larger to make it more glorious, but that wasn't distinct from other nationalist and fascist movements with imperial ambitions
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