r/JewsOfConscience • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist • Nov 08 '24

News Maccabi fans, pro-Palestinians clash in Amsterdam

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/42260727/maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-clash-pro-palestinian-protesters-ajax-europa-league-match
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u/Own_Artichoke6337 Nov 09 '24

I'm sorry, but using violence against "chants" is a bit much is it? And how do we know the person being thrown into the river was using those chants or did anything?

This drama just shows that everyone is lost on humanity. Against violence, but not really? Not one is being consistent in their beliefs. its despicable.

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u/Bonjourap Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 10 '24

If somebody physically harassed and attacked people of my community, for no reason other than their ethnicity or political beliefs, chanted threats of future violence and gloated about the death of children, AND the police had the whole day to stop them but yet didn't, then I would 100% go protect my community and beat up the f*cking assholes to teach them a lesson.

That's not fair you say? Well, if the police did it's job we wouldn't be there.

Muslims and Arabs are third-rate citizens in the West, the courts and media are actively against us, and the police doesn't defend us, on the contrary they'll defend our attackers. In that case, who can defend our communities if not ourselves?

Think about that for a bit, maybe you'll notice similar oppressions against other minorities in the West, like the hundreds of pogroms against Jews that bigoted Westerners exacted, and that their societies didn't prevent. Who defended Jews against pogroms in Poland and Germany? Mainly fellow Jews. Did it require violence to fight off violence? Yes, there are no other ways as far as I can tell.