r/JewsOfConscience • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist • Nov 08 '24

News Maccabi fans, pro-Palestinians clash in Amsterdam

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/42260727/maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-clash-pro-palestinian-protesters-ajax-europa-league-match
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u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist Nov 08 '24

I wanted to make one more point.

Just looking at the mainstream communal spaces on Reddit, the pro-Israel camp are saying things like 'this is why we need Israel / the IDF'.

And I thought, ok - but this does happen in Israel. Only, the racist hooligans get to abuse Palestinians verbally and physically, and the police and army do nothing about it.

So what the pro-Israel camp is truly upset about here is that Maccabi hooliganism wasn't one-sidedly against the locals. They want that violence to be protected.

There are also a video of someone asking a bystander whether they're Jewish or not. That is obviously terrifying and ghoulish behavior.

But again, Maccabi fans were chanting/singing 'D---- -- A---s!' and praising the ongoing genocide in Gaza - among other things.

Palestinians are regularly dehumanized in Israel by the simple act of referring to them as Arabs rather than as Palestinians - since it strips them of their national identity and conflates them with everyone else in the region.

So who started that reductive language in this case? Maccabi football hooligans.

There's so much wrong in this one story. The amount of bullshit and the double-standard of being outraged by some videos and not others.

Or projecting classic, European antisemitism onto this incident - when it's clearly tit-for-tat reductiveness and pettiness and frustration of seeing a live-streamed genocide and Israeli politicians, soldiers, settlers, civilians, etc. all bragging about it.

When that behavior is then exported into the outside world - where people are presumably not treated as second-class citizens, then obviously there's going to be a negative reaction.

That is what happened here. It's not remotely a 'pogrom' or a cartoonish case of antisemitic violence.

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u/b1tchlasagna Nov 08 '24

Unless you consider it to be an attempted pogrom of Arabs

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u/AggravatingMark1367 Nov 12 '24

Pogroms are committed against Palestinians in the West Bank by illegal Israeli settlers all the time but everyone crying about the attack on Maccabi hooligans are fine with that