r/JewsOfConscience • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist • Nov 08 '24

News Maccabi fans, pro-Palestinians clash in Amsterdam

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/42260727/maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-clash-pro-palestinian-protesters-ajax-europa-league-match
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u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24

Just want to point out that this story was all over X first and videos showed the Maccabi fans harassing people, singing genocidal chants, and vandalizing or tearing down Palestinian flags from locals.

An Amsterdam city council member summarizes what actually happened:

The Israeli fans instigated the violence after arriving in the city and attacking Palestinian supporters before the match, an Amsterdam city council member said.

“They began attacking houses of people in Amsterdam with Palestinian flags, so that’s actually where the violence started,” councilman Jazie Veldhuyzen told Al Jazeera on Friday.

“As a reaction, Amsterdammers mobilised themselves and countered the attacks that started on Wednesday by the Maccabi hooligans.”

It began when Maccabi fans attacked a Moroccan taxi driver & were burning Palestinian flags on Wednesday, the 6th - this is before the 'attacks' by locals began.

So there is ZERO doubt about who began this drama.

The corporate media and politicians are framing this as a random, bigoted attack.

More sources:

https://x.com/BenJamalpsc/status/1854907483296354574?t=7f4_tbAjz3TzWliaA57xHA&s=19

https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1854839444928422191

https://x.com/GuyShahar93/status/1854583313312186435

https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1854611633118810216

https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1854726431269700016

During the actual match, the Maccabi fans disrupted a moment of silence for the victims of the mass flooding in Spain.

https://x.com/Johnpatrick500/status/1854742600906948665

https://x.com/leylahamed/status/1854651497604129256

https://x.com/leylahamed/status/1854661181333475799

There were clashes that followed - but the press is framing it as a 'pogrom' with no mention of how the Maccabi fans themselves started this drama and engaged in the violence and mayhem.

And of course, on Reddit, that same narrative is being proliferated - mostly by citing right-wing pro-Israel press. But even the American press is pushing that narrative.

In reality, it's football hooliganism and pent-up rage at Israel's genocide - since those Maccabi fans made it political.

There's certainly a lot of hate going around - but the pro-Israel response and framing of this story as a 'pogrom' or that these football fans are innocent bystanders? Absolute nonsense.

Maccabi fans previously, randomly, attacked Palestiniansan Egyptian in Athens, Greece back in March:

https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1765797229267222999

https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1765845804307058769?t=SD91HjqHZYH2ZgdEihut9Q&s=19

Picked up by TRT World:

https://x.com/trtworld/status/1766058782876995789

Longer version which shows the initiation of violence by Maccabi fans:

https://x.com/EretzIsrael/status/1765894972199325970

It's so wildly dishonest how this story is being reported, especially when this club's fanbase has a history of hooliganism.

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u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist Nov 08 '24

Tomorrow is the anniversary of the Kristallnacht so, I'm assuming there's a non-zero chance the framing by some Israeli politicians and media is intentional.

The same folks did not like it when the settler terror attack on Huwara was framed as a pogrom - and in that case, it was much more legitimate to call it as such.

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u/Thisisme8719 Arab Jew Nov 08 '24

I'm assuming there's a non-zero chance the framing by some Israeli politicians and media is intentional.

And surprise surprise, here's a statement from Chuck Schumer...

"This antisemitic attack on Israeli soccer fans in Amsterdam is pure evil and the images of the attack are eerily reminiscent of Kristallnacht. The failure to protect the fans must be investigated swiftly and comprehensively."

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u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ Jewish Anti-Zionist Nov 08 '24

This is just too much bullshit to handle.

None of these cynical politicians and commentators said shit when Huwara was burning.

Some of them even grew angry at the comparison to pogroms. People on Reddit certainly did. Like in Israel_Palestine, where we used to debate others often.

But when football hooligans get into a street fight, it's suddenly 'reminiscent of Kristallnacht'? Shame.