"Ask A Jew" Wednesday

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[u/musingmarkhor]

I remember seeing something that left me with a lasting impression. An interviewer was asking a Palestinian in Gaza about coexistence in the future. He responded with a very valid point. How could you come to a people in the midst of oppression and then ask them about coexisting with their oppressors? I would take this further. How are people expecting Israelis with their warped sense of history and reality to even be capable of coexisting with Palestinians, who they've been treating like less than human beings for decades? I'm sorry, but I can't really see the heroic nature of being anti-Bibi. Most Israelis are Jewish Zionists and have beliefs that reflect that in their actions. Isn't there a need for their minds to be liberated too? Isn't there also a great need for accountability from Israelis and their supporters around the world? What do these things look like?

[u/watermelonkiwi → u/musingmarkhor]

I don't understand how a one state solution is possible at this point. How do you expect people who've been genocided to create a government with the people who genocided them? Also I was listening to a podcast interviewing an Israeli and the host said, the other week he had a Palestinian on and that person said that things won't end until all the Israelis leave. And the Israeli said, where are they going to go? They are mostly refugees from WWII and have nowhere to go back to. So I understand that this is settler colonialism and that they stole the land from the Palestinians, and now oppress them, so I completely understand why the Palestinians are fighting back, and don't think that Israelis should be there at all, but at the same time, after WWII these Israelis were refugees with nowhere to go. I think the creation of Israel was misguided, and I wish that the US had invited all the Jewish refugees to come live in the US instead of creating Israel. I think that the fault is with the white supremicist, colonial ideology of all of the western world, thinking that they could just create a Jewish state in Palestine and it would be fine and dandy, and that the people already living there didn't matter. With that said, why do people in this sub support a 1 state solution? What do they think that's going to look like, when there is still going to be so much hatred on both sides? If I was Palestinian I don't know if I could collaborate with the people who genocided my family and children. It's like we've now reached a place of no return after the last year.

[u/sudo_apt-get_intrnet → u/watermelonkiwi]

They are mostly refugees from WWII and have nowhere to go back to.

Just a small correction: the plurality of Israeli Jews (possibly the majority though I didn't look at the figures) are either Mizrachi or mixed Mizrachi, meaning they're refugees from the surrounding countries and/or have been living on the land for a long time. Even among the ashkenazi population you'll find more from Eastern-Europe/the Soviet Union block than from the Nazi-occupied block.

Not disagreeing with the actual point though, just pointing out that its not just WWII that Jews were/are fleeing from.

[u/watermelonkiwi → u/sudo_apt-get_intrnet]

You're right, refugees from various different conflicts, point is they were refugees, they don't have anywhere to go back to. They could come live in the US and Canada, but in terms of having places to go back to, they don't have that.