r/JewsOfConscience Oct 09 '24

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

Please remember to pick an appropriate user-flair in order to participate! Thanks!

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u/darps Non-Jewish Ally Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

Do you disagree in general with arguments for a majority Jewish state?

My context is especially the common pro-Israel argument that, regardless of social progress, an enduring peaceful existence as Jewish minority in other countries is ultimately not achievable due to antisemitism, and the only way to prevent another Holocaust long-term is a majority Jewish state.

Clearly it's a mile-long slippery slope from this conclusion to defending Israel as it exists, but I want to better understand the core of this argument.

Edit: Thank you for all the thoughtful responses! There's clearly a range of opinions on this matter. I'm not sure why my comment is being downvoted since I didn't see any direct criticism, so I'd appreciate to understand where it went off-base or offended people, or if it's otherwise undesirable.

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u/daudder Anti-Zionist Oct 09 '24

Do you disagree in general with arguments for a majority Jewish state?

The problem is not in the majority as such. The problem is the lengths the Zionists have gone and are willing to go to keep it that way by force of arms and through ethnic cleansing.

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u/darps Non-Jewish Ally Oct 10 '24

Yes, I'd consider that part of the "slippery slope" arguments derived from this one, often in bad faith. Still that doesn't fundamentally invalidate this argument at its core, and going by responses there is no clear consensus on that. Thanks for responding.