r/JewsOfConscience • u/AutoModerator • Oct 09 '24

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

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u/darps Non-Jewish Ally Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

Do you disagree in general with arguments for a majority Jewish state?

My context is especially the common pro-Israel argument that, regardless of social progress, an enduring peaceful existence as Jewish minority in other countries is ultimately not achievable due to antisemitism, and the only way to prevent another Holocaust long-term is a majority Jewish state.

Clearly it's a mile-long slippery slope from this conclusion to defending Israel as it exists, but I want to better understand the core of this argument.

Edit: Thank you for all the thoughtful responses! There's clearly a range of opinions on this matter. I'm not sure why my comment is being downvoted since I didn't see any direct criticism, so I'd appreciate to understand where it went off-base or offended people, or if it's otherwise undesirable.

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u/TurkeyFisher Jewish Anti-Zionist Oct 09 '24

enduring peaceful existence as Jewish minority in other countries is ultimately not achievable due to antisemitism

How is this even remotely true anymore, though? Israel is on the brink of a hot war in which case it will very quickly become the most dangerous place in the world for Jews in terms of Jewish deaths. The region will only become less stable as educated Israelis leave the country and the region is hit with droughts and heatwaves from climate change. The idea that another holocaust would happen somewhere like America, and the target would be Jewish people is absurd. Even after a year of genocide in Gaza, Americans still overwhelmingly support Israel, but both political parties are supporting mass deportations of South American immigrants in this election. But if there was mass migration from Israel, I guarantee Americans would accept them with open arms.