r/JewsOfConscience Jewish Anti-Zionist Oct 01 '24

Opinion “Israel’s mythology of necessity of making Jews feel alone”

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1840794935466844652?s=61&t=BOlzemQu6oPppjtIB6ZeiQ

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u/Horror-Wasabi-3613 Oct 01 '24

Ngl… Distancing yourself from your family because of their Zionist ideologies is still pretty isolating.

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u/SuperBearJew Oct 01 '24

I think it's okay to recognize the limits of some of our elders (as I imagine this subreddit tends to skew younger)

My parents are boomers, and my mom's parents are Holocaust survivors. For my bubbie on my mom's side, I can understand why shes a Zionist, and why that might not ever change based on her experiences.

I can also understand how my parents, raised by that generation, might have similar feelings. Generational trauma and whatnot.

I make an effort to talk to my parents about this kind of thing, but I also recognize that realistically the wheels of history move relatively slowly, and often much more slowly than many of us would like. That being said, I can also see myself being too passive on the issue sometimes, although sometimes out of necessity for my mental health

As bleak as it may sound, as the Holocaust survivors and their offspring pass, I think we'll see a bit of a demographic shift away from Zionism. That is obviously no help for Palestinians/Lebanese at the moment, but it does give me some hope for a more peaceful future.

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u/TheShittyLittleIdiot Oct 07 '24

I'm not optimistic actually. Very Jewish identifying jews--ie, more religious, more likely to go to private school, etc--are very highly indoctrinated. The ones who are less likely to be pro-Israel are also less likely to pass a strong sense of Jewish identity onto their children. On the other hand, progressive Jewish leaders in training, especially in reconstructionism, are less likely to be Zionists, so there's something. I also think the Zionist project will probably collapse within our lifetime, however.