r/JewsOfConscience Sep 22 '24

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u/normalgirl124 Ashkenazi Sep 22 '24 edited Sep 23 '24

She is an antizionist Jew, I can’t access the original article but think this is a rhetorical question and taken out of context… I interpret this as her basically saying that the way that Israel conducts itself throws all Jews under the bus and fuels antisemitism. We beg for people to remember the distinction between Judaism and Zionism, they co-opt the Star of David and call all critics antisemites…. They care far more about the Zionist project than the actual safety of Jews, because if the latter were the case, they wouldn’t be insisting that their murderous actions are done in our name.

Edit after reading article: My only criticism is that she seems to be unnecessarily insisting on being sort of contrarian towards other Jewish antizionists… Obviously the ongoing sadness and frustration we have at being alienated and pushed out of mainstream Jewish institutions is nothing, not even a fraction of a fraction of what it is like to be Palestinian. Yet most antizionist Jews don’t want to stop being culturally/spiritually Jewish, if we stopped having these internal conversations about redefining ourselves outside of zionism, that is basically what we would have to do. Disavow ourselves of our Jewishness. I have actually thought about that and physically feel sick at the idea, my ancestors weren’t gassed to death for me to give into that kind of mishegas 🤷🏻‍♀️Imo Zionists have pushed Judaism and the entire Jewish community into a cultural and spiritual crisis and these conversations are unavoidable, doesn't matter whether you think they’re “necessary” or not. It’s possible to care about two things.

But I don’t really disagree with her, I even agree with Mohammed El-Kurd’s quote. It’s essentially the same shit I’ve said to countless family members during arguments: I don’t see the point in punishing Palestinians for Europe’s crimes. I don’t care if Gazans say that they hate Jews, all the Jews they’ve ever met are soldiers committing war crimes on babies. She’s kinda taking a weird stance but doesn’t really bug me, it honestly just reminds me of a certain way that older academics talk sometimes lol.

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u/Embarrassed_Brief_97 Sep 22 '24

I hope you can access the article through this link. Please let me know if not, and I will try another source.

https://www.smry.ai/proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fnational%2Fthese-are-the-things-i-ve-learnt-you-can-t-ask-about-israel-20240917-p5kb47.html

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u/normalgirl124 Ashkenazi Sep 22 '24

Yes thank you sm! Great read.

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u/Embarrassed_Brief_97 Sep 23 '24

No wukkers, mate.