r/JewsOfConscience • u/AutoModerator • Sep 18 '24

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

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u/demureape Non-Jewish Ally Sep 18 '24

for religious jews, has this past year shaken your view of your religion? do you feel more or less religious? have recent events made you want to learn more about torah judaism or even islam?

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u/Saul_al-Rakoun Conservadox & Marxist Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

It's caused me to discard my previous live-and-let-live approach toward Zionism, and it is now clear to me that Zionism is avodah zarah and that for Judaism to live, Zionism must die. It's caused me to have to come to grips, and then come to terms, with the fact that Israelis are not Jews.

And with that has come a feeling of immense freedom: it's strongly implied by Israelis that we're lesser Jews, there's a subtle and sometimes not so subtle message that all (Jewish) roads lead to Tel Aviv, and it's outright stated we cannot trust our neighbors. Jewish history shows that is not true, that being persecuted for being Jews is rare outside of Christendom, and that my parents' own grandparents lived at a time when Arabs were a people Jews took refuge amongst. A pox on Zionistan and their blood is on their own heads.

The Jewish world is much smaller than I thought it was a year ago, but more open, too, if that makes sense. I no longer have to make excuses, to myself or to others, about a bunch of Godless, land-stealing, child-murdering Yarpies.

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u/conscience_journey Jewish Anti-Zionist Sep 18 '24

I disagree about Israelis/Zionists not being Jews. They are Jews, but they certainly are disobeying the commands of our faith. That makes them wicked, but not less Jewish.

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u/Saul_al-Rakoun Conservadox & Marxist Sep 18 '24

They're not disobeying the commands of Judaism, they don't believe in it at all. Either they are atheists, or they are Religious Zionists and manage to be even worse -- according to them the Book of Joshua overrides the Torah.