r/JewsOfConscience • u/Roy4Pris Zionism is a waste of Judaism • Sep 07 '24

News Jake Tapper tweets that people protesting his colleague Dana Bash are antisemitic. Max Blumenthal absolutely eviscerates him in response

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1832196541735657532
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u/Ok_Editor_710 Non-denominational Sep 08 '24

Pity...I would have thought Genocide is your litmus test...but to each her/his own.

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u/bearoscuro Non-Jewish Ally Sep 09 '24

What a bizarre, extremely unempathetic thing to say to someone directly affected by that regime. Would you say this type of thing to someone in person, out of curiosity?

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u/Ok_Editor_710 Non-denominational Sep 09 '24

Yes.

Genocide should be all our litmus test. Our non-negotiable red line. I have contempt for those who think there's a more pressing matter than stopping genocide.

I have no idea who you are, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're a victim of "that regime" cause I'm fair. You on the other hand by piling on in the character assassination of a Journalist without proof are incredibly unfair.

Being a victim of "that regime" does not entitle you to pile on in the character assassination of anyone you disagree with--without proof.

If you think about it you'd realize this sub is dedicated to exposing a group of people known as Zionists who feel because their ancestors were the victims of "Nazi regime" they are entitled to lie and kill with impunity.

Like most on this sub I don't agree 100% with Max Blumenthal on every issue 100%. He's wrong sometimes and he's right on a whole lot but before I'd join in the collective character assassination against him I'd make sure I have at least one credible fact pointing to his guilt.

Everyone is entitled to proof of guilt before we smear them on a public forum. I don't think there's anything "bizarre" about seeking proof of guilt.

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u/bearoscuro Non-Jewish Ally Sep 09 '24

Ok. I appreciate the sincere response. I'm not Syrian myself, but I have a few Syrian friends, and my family history is also partially of escaping a far less horrible regime than Assad's. I think it's very silly to try and build any sort of consensus around "sorry about this murderous and repressive government that displaced and hurt you, but, suck it up and don't criticize that, we're all anti-genocide here and what happened to you is irrelevant." It's absolutely unfair to ask that of people, and will just alienate them. I would recommend not saying that to anybody irl lmao.

I don't think it's character assassination to point out when a public figure journalist is wrong, and honestly the idea of "if they're antizionist, they must be supported and platformed without any criticism," is very odd. By that metric, all those neonazi-adjacent people who hate Israel for the wrong reasons are ok too? What's the line?

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u/Ok_Editor_710 Non-denominational Sep 10 '24

But you haven't pointed out that he's wrong... You've pointed out that you dislike him and insinuated that somehow he's shilling for the Assad regime.

I'm still waiting for proof from you and anybody else on here that he's sucking up to Assad.

So far all I've gotten from you and anyone else smearing him is silly galloping from thing to another.

Where is your evidence?

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u/bearoscuro Non-Jewish Ally Sep 10 '24

I'm not interested in defending someone who was trying to spread disinformation about chemical weapons attacks against civilians, sorry. The Grayzone is also known for having published AI-generated articles with fake sources. This is pretty common knowledge and easy to look up.

I'm not going to litigate back and forth on every minutia of Blumenthal's career, I don't care that much about him and don't follow it in depth because I don't find him a particularly credible source on most topics. I think this is a weird hill to die on to protect his honour. He has solid reporting and coverage on Gaza, but that doesn't mean he's a saint and everyone needs to like him.