Recently, AOC followed up her objectively dishonest appearance at the DNC with an ig love where she answered questions/platformed democratic talking points. During that stream, she directed pointed criticism at Jill Stein and portrayed the green party as a whole as self-serving opportunists.
Since then, that narrative has been taken up as a major talking point across liberal and pro-capitalist left circles on social media, including on this site. This was Jill's response.
Well unfortunately, they are self serving opportunists. AOC’s doing a bad job here but the Green Party in America is less than useless right now. They make no effort to build power and only pop up during the general election. They don’t do anything. Their strategy is bad. They want that 5% of the vote so they can be on national ballots, but do virtually nothing on a local or state level. it’s a top down approach that will never work.
If you’re not gonna vote for Harris, you may as well just not vote for president and just focus on down ballot stuff. There’s truly no good to be done by throwing a vote to Jill Stein.
I don’t want to pop your bubble, but republicans and democrats can’t get shit done either. Seems strange to discredit the Geen Party for something the 2 main parties are guilty of themselves.
Short of mass change in elections over the course of a decade or so, voting third party does nothing to address the 2 main parties. Let alone put a stop to the two party system.
To put a stop to the two party system, we need to end first past the post voting. First past the post means that whoever has the most votes wins, with or without a majority. So, it's strategically advantageous to bundle interests together until parties have a reliable chance of winning 50% + 1 votes. i.e. it's mathematically advantageous for numerous parties to join with similar parties until there are only 2. Changing the sort of voting that's used is necessary to address this.
The other big issue is the electoral college. 23% of the people can override a united 77% to elect a president. There are various arguments about why this is and how/whether to address it, but it's definitively undemocratic.
And, that doesn't even touch on gerrymandering, money in politics, disenfranchisement, et al.
I hate the two major parties. I don't want either of them. All voting third party does is ensure less votes for candidates more aligned with one's own beliefs. It sucks. It's shitty. It's the political reality in the US.
Yes, hold politicians and parties accountable for shitty positions and policies. Make sure the actions one takes don't indirectly enable worse positions and policies on principle.
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u/isawasin Non-Jewish Ally Sep 05 '24
Recently, AOC followed up her objectively dishonest appearance at the DNC with an ig love where she answered questions/platformed democratic talking points. During that stream, she directed pointed criticism at Jill Stein and portrayed the green party as a whole as self-serving opportunists.
Since then, that narrative has been taken up as a major talking point across liberal and pro-capitalist left circles on social media, including on this site. This was Jill's response.