r/JewsOfConscience Non-Jewish Ally Sep 05 '24

News Jill Stein responds to AOC

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u/isawasin Non-Jewish Ally Sep 05 '24

Recently, AOC followed up her objectively dishonest appearance at the DNC with an ig love where she answered questions/platformed democratic talking points. During that stream, she directed pointed criticism at Jill Stein and portrayed the green party as a whole as self-serving opportunists.

Since then, that narrative has been taken up as a major talking point across liberal and pro-capitalist left circles on social media, including on this site. This was Jill's response.

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u/Taarguss Reconstructionist Sep 05 '24

Well unfortunately, they are self serving opportunists. AOC’s doing a bad job here but the Green Party in America is less than useless right now. They make no effort to build power and only pop up during the general election. They don’t do anything. Their strategy is bad. They want that 5% of the vote so they can be on national ballots, but do virtually nothing on a local or state level. it’s a top down approach that will never work.

If you’re not gonna vote for Harris, you may as well just not vote for president and just focus on down ballot stuff. There’s truly no good to be done by throwing a vote to Jill Stein.

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u/Ok_Depth6945 Anti-Zionist Ally Sep 05 '24

This is an objectively untrue smear. They do plenty of organizing on the local and state level. They don't have the coffers of the capitalist class to back them up or the media apparatus, so it's astronomically more difficult AND you don't hear about it when it does happen. Look at the legal efforts of Democrats to drown them if you don't believe me.

If you live in a solid red/blue state, there is 0 downside to casting a vote to get the Green Party across that 5% threshold to qualify for federal matching funds.

AOC is a spineless sellout who dodges every opportunity to represent the working class and victims of empire. She should be agitating, not sheepherding/defusing revolutionary potential among the rank and file.

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u/Taarguss Reconstructionist Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

But there’s no revolution coming. It’s America. It’s a college Marxist fantasy. We’ve been historically, notably-around-the-world, not a revolutionary culture. If it didn’t happen at the many, many more substantial chokepoint periods in history before this, it’s not happening now. Things are never actually bad enough here to make it preferable to staying as is. Most people get to go home and watch TV, even if they’re poor.

And why would you want the Green Party to get federal matching anyway? They’re bad at what they do. They’re a shell of what they were 25 years ago. They’re awful organizers. Money wouldn’t fix that, it would just be higher amounts not going to local and state elections, and more money going to useless general election campaigns into the future.

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u/Ok_Depth6945 Anti-Zionist Ally Sep 05 '24

Think about how much money is spent trying to quash labor/any popular movement. For that reason alone, you are wrong. The ruling class will give minor concessions to placate Americans until they can no longer. "There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen" etc etc.

It DID happen at many other substantial chokepoints in history.

At the very least, the TRPF will come knocking.